starrymessenger Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, JohnNord said: What if the Bills can stop their run game? Mac Jones cannot carry them with his arm imo especially not vs our secondary. 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Mac Jones cannot carry them with his arm imo especially not vs our secondary. Unless it gets crazy the score they won’t make him either. If it’s a one score game they stay with the game plan. IMO they are a couple years ahead of schedule in the rebuild. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) On 11/8/2021 at 6:50 PM, LeGOATski said: We all know you like to say it... @dave mcbride is just being realistic. Lotta' ignorant fans of ALL teams have been assuring themselves since Tampa Bay won that Super Bowl last February that Belichick was never that good of a HC and that he just won because he had Tom Brady. Brady is great but Belichick is the GOAT in his own right........and still the best HC in the NFL......and the biggest difference maker on any NFL sideline. Doesn't mean the Bills can't or shouldn't beat them head to head........but the idea that the Pats were going to go away for the next 15 years "just because" they changed QB's and the Bills had Josh Allen was never based in any kind of reality. If the Bills beat NE in a few weeks I think that might be the first time Belichick has lost 3 straight to an opponent since he became HC in New England. I like to look at it like that rather than worrying about being disappointed if they lose to New England. They aren't in my rear-view........as long as Belichick is there those two games will likely be the biggest games on the schedule to me. We can't beat them enough to ever satisfy me for the foreseeable future. Edited November 15, 2021 by BADOLBILZ 1 1 2 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) When that team plays the Bills then lets talk SOS. the Browns self destruct all the time they beat the JETS twice oooohhh scary Edited November 15, 2021 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote
Xwnyer Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Shouldn’t this and other thread be merged Quote
Casey D Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Acknowledging the Pats are better than expected is not soft, it's smart. The tough guy "they are nothing to worry about, go piss your pants" bravado is not very smart. What was your prediction for today's game? Quote
Bing Bong Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 I'm glad they seem to be having a good year on a hot streak, ready to meet up with the Bills for the division All the better when we crush their spirits, and let em know no matter how good they think they and Mac Jones are.. they're going to be Josh Allen's doormat for a very long time 3 1 1 Quote
MJS Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Mac Jones cannot carry them with his arm imo especially not vs our secondary. 7 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Unless it gets crazy the score they won’t make him either. If it’s a one score game they stay with the game plan. IMO they are a couple years ahead of schedule in the rebuild. I haven't watched the Pats for a bit, but last time I did I thought they were really calling games to help Mac Jones out. They have not asked him to do too much and are treating him like a rookie, which is smart. I don't get how teams can throw everything on the shoulders of some of these rookie QB's. Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson have been thrown into the fire and asked to operate as 5 year vets. And surprise! They have struggled. The down side to that is it really limits you offensively if the QB is not able to take full command of the offense. We'll see what happens. Belichick is a great coach. The Patriots have a good defense. The team is better than I thought they would be. Quote
TBBills Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Casey D said: What was your prediction for today's game? He had his "I should have been drafted first overall" T-shirt on. Edited November 15, 2021 by TBBills Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 It’s time to get Belicheat out of your heads!!! Quote
TBBills Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I initially predicted the Bills to lose, 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: I actually predicted a win 2 1 1 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 What rookie has really challenged the Bills D and don’t count garbage time down 21 points Quote
Big Turk Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: @dave mcbride is just being realistic. Lotta' ignorant fans of ALL teams have been assuring themselves since Tampa Bay won that Super Bowl last February that Belichick was never that good of a HC and that he just won because he had Tom Brady. Brady is great but Belichick is the GOAT in his own right........and still the best HC in the NFL......and the biggest difference maker on any NFL sideline. Doesn't mean the Bills can't or shouldn't beat them head to head........but the idea that the Pats were going to go away for the next 15 years "just because" they changed QB's and the Bills had Josh Allen was never based in any kind of reality. If the Bills beat NE in a few weeks I think that might be the first time Belichick has lost 3 straight to an opponent since he became HC in New England. I like to look at it like that rather than worrying about being disappointed if they lose to New England. They aren't in my rear-view........as long as Belichick is there those two games will likely be the biggest games on the schedule to me. We can't beat them enough to ever satisfy me for the foreseeable future. Belichick is nearing the end of the line, so he won't be there 15 more years 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 7:09 PM, auburnbillsbacker said: I hate TBD after a loss. Time wll tell if the Patriots are better but it's way to soon to day that now. The Bills have a better record, better ranked defense, better ranked offense, better msrgin of victory, etc. How do you like it after an easy blowout win, like today? It's horrible! Boring, very few new threads have been started, and there's no passionate discussion about anything. Excellence/winning bring boring times! It was like this on a lot of Sundays during the SB years too. Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Force the pats to pass- put 8 in the box. Play the run hard. Lets see em try to out gun the bills offense. I’ll be laughing maniacally while i watch it happen 3 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, MJS said: I haven't watched the Pats for a bit, but last time I did I thought they were really calling games to help Mac Jones out. They have not asked him to do too much and are treating him like a rookie, which is smart. I don't get how teams can throw everything on the shoulders of some of these rookie QB's. Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson have been thrown into the fire and asked to operate as 5 year vets. And surprise! They have struggled. The down side to that is it really limits you offensively if the QB is not able to take full command of the offense. We'll see what happens. Belichick is a great coach. The Patriots have a good defense. The team is better than I thought they would be. Your right it does limit the O, but I rather limit it and have Jones grow than have his development hurt. Quote
FireChans Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, MJS said: I haven't watched the Pats for a bit, but last time I did I thought they were really calling games to help Mac Jones out. They have not asked him to do too much and are treating him like a rookie, which is smart. I don't get how teams can throw everything on the shoulders of some of these rookie QB's. Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson have been thrown into the fire and asked to operate as 5 year vets. And surprise! They have struggled. The down side to that is it really limits you offensively if the QB is not able to take full command of the offense. We'll see what happens. Belichick is a great coach. The Patriots have a good defense. The team is better than I thought they would be. Because the point of a rookie QB is not to win as many games as possible. You want them to learn how to play, and throwing quick checkdowns 18 times a game is not how you learn to play. I remember a huge point of contention was that Josh was throwing too much in 18 and 19. But I firmly believe that's in part why he developed so quickly. Running the ball 35-40 times a game and only calling 20 passes is how you convince yourself EJ Manuel may be the next franchise guy after 2 seasons. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Belichick is nearing the end of the line, so he won't be there 15 more years You misread..........I didn't say he would. They are a very well run organization from top to bottom..........the Krafts have had 3 head coaches and all are HOF'ers........Parcells, Carroll and Belichick..........so the assumption that they will just turn around and hire a Greggo Williams to eventually replace Belichick seems like wishful thinking. No reason to think they won't continue to hire well and maintain their identity, much like the Steelers have for most of the last 50 years. Bills just gotta' take care of their own business. 1 1 1 Quote
Success Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 No joke - if this IS the start of another dynasty, I'm gonna need some therapy. It's silly. Why can't they just spend some time in the wilderness, politely? It's just bad manners. 1 Quote
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