Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Jrb1979 said: Just a football fan in general. I'm mostly here to chat about that other team in Buffalo that gets disrespected here. So you're not a Bills fan. Got it. 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: Why are we even arguing about strength of schedule? It's just a form of mental *****. The Bills and Patriots play twice, we'll know after those two games which is the better team. Well, I hope we will. There's always the Zebra factor, and the still-lingering belief that when you play in Foxborough, Stuff Just Happens Quote
RichRiderBills Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 Has Mac Jones ever even played in the cold? More than 12 games in a season? Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, I hope we will. There's always the Zebra factor, and the still-lingering belief that when you play in Foxborough, Stuff Just Happens Agree, but all we need to do IMO is split with the Pats and then beat the Jets. Even if we drop an extra game we'll win the Division on the 2nd tie breaker (division record). Quote
Ghost_002! Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So you're not a Bills fan. Got it. Well, I hope we will. There's always the Zebra factor, and the still-lingering belief that when you play in Foxborough, Stuff Just Happens Point out when was the last time the bills played in foxboro there was an issue? An actually legitimate issue? Edited November 16, 2021 by Ghost_002! Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Why are we even arguing about strength of schedule? It's just a form of mental *****. The Bills and Patriots play twice, we'll know after those two games which is the better team. Yup and they both play the same teams anyways, all besides like 1 or 2 different opponents lol. Makes no sense.... Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Point out when was the last time the bills played in foxboro there was an issue? An actually legitimate issue? I'll let Mark Sanchez explain 1 Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Point out when was the last time the bills played in foxboro there was an issue? An actually legitimate issue? Not to speak for him and all, but I think he meant in general and not Bills specifically. Just a guess, could be wrong. That's how I interpreted it anyways Quote
eball Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 10 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: I've moved past mild concern to serious concern over the Patriots and no rational fan can say the Bills are playing better right now just because we smashed another pathetic team with a QB that had less than a handful of starts yesterday. Pats are a very complete team and Mac Jones is not a game manager for those who have been paying attention in recent weeks. The metrics say he's been playing at an elite level which is insane giving the circumstances as a rookie QB. Not going to be the popular opinion here but at this point I think the Pats cruise to the division this year given their remaining schedule and best case will be splitting with them and securing the top WC spot as the #5 seed. 10 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Either way the Bills margin of error the rest of the way is slim to zero. What's more vomit inducing is the fact the Pats found another QB so fast after one down season with Cam Newton, but even then they still managed 7 wins. But looking at the rest of the Pats schedule, outside of the Bills MNF game you can argue they will be the favorites in every game left (including TEN at home). I honestly won't be surprised if the game in Buffalo is considered PICK EM either unless the Bills truly show some dominance these next few games against the Saints and Colts. Heluva troll job, man. Well done. Just go away. Christ. 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Your point was that KC was not good when the Bills beat them. The same can be said for the Chargers, Panthers, and Browns when the Pats**** beat them. Don't change the narrative. I believe the Pats have a good team and the games between them and the Bills will be tough. But don't play semantics and try to say the ".500" teams the Pats**** beat were very good at the time they beat them. They weren't. Ahh a rewrite of history.. the fact people picked the Browns beat the pats outright even on game day.. your response “pfft they were trash” when they faced the Chargers people were saying “The Pats will be rolled the Chargers O can’t be stopped” Heck even the Panthers the expert thought they would win. I know your a scared Bills fan afraid say they were good wins.. I don’t know why, your team has only played 3 good teams and haven’t faced the gauntlet yet. The Bills could excel or fall flat we don’t know until they play. But the Pats gone threw their huge gauntlet and we know who they are.. we don’t know yet about the Bills.. we will soon. 1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Not to speak for him and all, but I think he meant in general and not Bills specifically. Just a guess, could be wrong. That's how I interpreted it anyways The only teams have “issues” in fox borough with equipment are Indy and Pitt. The funny thing is the Pats don’t do anything wrong equipment the NFL runs all of it. But for some reason basic fans never seem realize this or care. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: The only teams have “issues” in fox borough with equipment are Indy and Pitt. The funny thing is the Pats don’t do anything wrong equipment the NFL runs all of it. But for some reason basic fans never seem realize this or care From what Sanchez is saying in that post up thread, it sounds like he had an issue also. Quote
Ghost_002! Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'll let Mark Sanchez explain So that's why Mark Sanchez was never a great QB or barely ever beat the pats. Because his headset went out "allegedly"? The ole "greatest trick the devil ever pulled..." and fans and teams eat it up. I mean nothing ever came out it but it's the patriots so it must be true, right?..Joe Judge was just complaining about his headsets not working when the Giants played the chiefs....buuuuuuut it's only in foxboro, "allegedly" 1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Not to speak for him and all, but I think he meant in general and not Bills specifically. Just a guess, could be wrong. That's how I interpreted it anyways If so, then a Bills fan shouldn't have any issue since there is no case of anything happening to your team. So when you play them, you are playing them on fair terms and equal grounds... Edited November 16, 2021 by Ghost_002! Quote
Ghost_002! Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: From what Sanchez is saying in that post up thread, it sounds like he had an issue also. I always laugh at this stuff. From Sanchez Jets team... looks like a jets coach tripping an opposing player running with the ball....emmm Edited November 16, 2021 by Ghost_002! 1 Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: f so, then a Bills fan shouldn't have any issue since there is no case of anything happening to your team. So when you play them, you are playing them on fair terms and equal grounds.. Doesn't have anything to do with whether Bills have had an issue or not. Point is with all the talk it has drawn an situation where many don't trust Edited November 16, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins 1 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Doesn't have anything to do with whether Bills have had an issue or not. Point is with all the talk it has drawn an not trusting situation well....and if any coach or player spends anytime thinking more "what could be" than the actually game plan you already lost. If nothing has happened what is there to worry about..i mean overall teams are suppose to keep things away from other teams right...playbooks, game plans, signal calls...etc. Edited November 16, 2021 by Ghost_002! Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said: well....and if any coach or player spends anytime thinking more "what could be" than the actually game plan you already lost. If nothing has happened what is there to worry about..i mean overall teams are suppose to keep things away from other teams right...playbooks, game plans, signals calls...etc. Not talking about coaches and players. You said Bills fan shouldn't worry about it. I'm telling you why some fans do talk about it. 1 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Not talking about coaches and players. You said Bills fan shouldn't worry about it. I'm telling you why some fans do talk about it. cool...that part was talking in general about teams and coaches, the very thought that teams have to think the patriots are cheating is already an edge to them even though there isn't anything there. (the ole devil trick)....my thought about the fans can be the same as well....but overall nothing has happened, so what is there to worry about? 20 plus years and NOTHING. I get what you are saying, but still; Nothing. Edited November 16, 2021 by Ghost_002! Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: From what Sanchez is saying in that post up thread, it sounds like he had an issue also. “Butt Fumble” boy! Please there was never a need to do anything extra with him! That just proves it’s not a team thing. Again the NFL is in charge of all equipment. Quote
billsfan1959 Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 8 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Ahh a rewrite of history.. the fact people picked the Browns beat the pats outright even on game day.. your response “pfft they were trash” when they faced the Chargers people were saying “The Pats will be rolled the Chargers O can’t be stopped” Heck even the Panthers the expert thought they would win. I know your a scared Bills fan afraid say they were good wins.. I don’t know why, your team has only played 3 good teams and haven’t faced the gauntlet yet. The Bills could excel or fall flat we don’t know until they play. But the Pats gone threw their huge gauntlet and we know who they are.. we don’t know yet about the Bills.. we will soon. Look, I know you are back on your team's bandwagon and good for you. If you feel the need to go on another team's message board to try to convince fans of another team and yourself that the Chargers, Browns, and Panthers were some kind of "gauntlet" and playing great football when they played your team, in order to rationalize to yourself that your team deserves the lofty status it now occupies in your mind, feel free. Regardless, the truth is this: It doesn't matter who your team has played or who the Bills have played, or what the outcomes of those games were. None of that has any relevance to the games ahead between the two teams, or with other teams. We will know when they play each other and at the end of the year where the two stand. Until then, spend your time thumping your chest on the message boards of other teams to manage your fragile psyche and to keep your little world from falling apart. I guess it is cheaper than a therapist. It all seems somewhat pathetic to me, but I try not to judge. 5 3 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Look, I know you are back on your team's bandwagon and good for you. If you feel the need to go on another team's message board to try to convince fans of another team and yourself that the Chargers, Browns, and Panthers were some kind of "gauntlet" and playing great football when they played your team, in order to rationalize to yourself that your team deserves the lofty status it now occupies in your mind, feel free. Regardless, the truth is this: It doesn't matter who your team has played or who the Bills have played, or what the outcomes of those games were. None of that has any relevance to the games ahead between the two teams, or with other teams. We will know when they play each other and at the end of the year where the two stand. Until then, spend your time thumping your chest on the message boards of other teams to manage your fragile psyche and to keep your little world from falling apart. I guess it is cheaper than a therapist. It all seems somewhat pathetic to me, but I try not to judge. Whose thumping their chest? I think it just spiraled out of control. I originally said I know what my Pats are because of who they have faced. (They have faced two top 3 O’s and 2 Top 10 D)That is a good team with the potential be great in the near future. I then said we don’t know who Buffalo is because they haven’t faced a truly rough stretch yet. Now tough means teams they are facing not losses.. Hell even in a loss if the team looked good and it was just bad luck can tell you something. (For example the AZ game last year.) I have said all year the Pats are a fringe playoff team and the Bills should be SB contenders. That could change depending on these next 4 weeks where the Bills face playoff contenders.. Bills could be who we thought they were or prove us wrong in which case the Pats would be AFCE champs again. now are you saying the Bills have truly been tested by any true metal of the league in regards to Offense? They have faced a tough D in Pitt but that’s it.. 1 Quote
streetkings01 Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 I trust Frazier/McDermott against young inexperienced QBs……not at all scared of Mac Jones and his 13 TD passes in 10 games in which 3 of them just came against the Browns. Not taking anything away from Mac Jones, but if he was putting up these same stats for any team other than the Pats he wouldn’t be getting near the hype. It’s not like he’s lighting up the NFL……he’s avg 233 yards and 1.3 touchdowns a game. Quote
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