Allen refusal to throw underneath is killing us. Killing drives. This was on 17 strictly

[Toyo321]

5 minutes ago, par73 said:

Even Allen, in his press conference, said he needed to get the ball out quicker sometimes. Quick hitters on designed plays will slow down a blitz.

You are 100% right..  But as long as Daboll is calling these plays we will never get to this level of play calling during the game.  Even Josh's audibles are not working...

[JerseyBills]

17 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Quite a few. And quite a few got us nothing. I'd argue a few times the quick pass to singletary with 1 half assed block in front of him killed more drives than Allen.

 

The O-line even 6 on 4 couldn't even give Allen more than 2 seconds. I can hardly believe you can consider putting this one on Allen. He makes mistakes when he does too much, as a lot of QBs do. Look at Stafford tonight.

This isn't a TD to Moss?!!!

That's an EASY 7

 

9 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

You are 100% right..  But as long as Daboll is calling these plays we will never get to this level of play calling during the game.  Even Josh's audibles are not working...

 

24 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Quite a few. And quite a few got us nothing. I'd argue a few times the quick pass to singletary with 1 half assed block in front of him killed more drives than Allen.

 

The O-line even 6 on 4 couldn't even give Allen more than 2 seconds. I can hardly believe you can consider putting this one on Allen. He makes mistakes when he does too much, as a lot of QBs do. Look at Stafford tonight.

There's so many more . I'll post the evidence tmrw. Go Bills

[JerseyBills]

15 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

You are 100% right..  But as long as Daboll is calling these plays we will never get to this level of play calling during the game.  Even Josh's audibles are not working...

Things get quiet when that evidence shows up.. 

[LABILLBACKER]

57 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

No.   

 

He actually did take the underneath stuff today and there was minimal yac 

 

Beasely and Singletary combined for 15 catches - for 76 yards.  

 

Cole had 8 catches for 33 yards.  

 

How's that even possible????

Every time Beasley,  Singletary or McKenzie caught the ball they were Immediately tackled. We get zero YAC from our receivers. Josh played poorly but the OL $#!+ the bed again.....

[JerseyBills]

Just now, JerseyBills said:

Things get quiet when that evidence shows up.. 

He hits Moss in stride we win the game. This was a common theme all day. 

 

[Toyo321]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

This isn't a TD to Moss?!!!

That's an EASY 7

 

 

Allen has not been sharp at all taking the option clearly that is best presented to him.  He has constantly thrown bad passes to many times in situations like this and the result.  Field goals.  Last three games are proof of this.

[JerseyBills]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

Every time Beasley,  Singletary or McKenzie caught the ball they were Immediately tackled. We get zero YAC from our receivers. Josh played poorly but the OL $#!+ the bed again.....

It's crazy how you people can be shown evidence n still blame anyone but Josh

 

This high school throw to Moss , easy TD.

And they were there all night he just holds the ball too long.

 

Just cause the OL sukked doesn't mean what I'm saying can't be true as well 

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Things get quiet when that evidence shows up.. 

For one thing it’s not evidence it’s your opinion a still shot does not show everything that’s going on in that play

 

PS stop responding to your own posts you look like an idiot

Edited November 8, 2021 by John from Riverside

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, LEBills said:

Josh does need to settle for the smaller plays sometimes. 
 

However this was a total offensive side of the ball loss.

From terrible blocking, to uninspired play calls, to average running, to drops and fumbles out of bounds. And of course, Joshs turnovers. Plenty of things need to change and Josh needs a lot more help.

Spot on here.👍

[Bruffalo]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

It's crazy how you people can be shown evidence n still blame anyone but Josh

 

This high school throw to Moss , easy TD.

And they were there all night he just holds the ball too long.

 

Just cause the OL sukked doesn't mean what I'm saying can't be true as well 

I see what looks like a LB and a CB ready to bear down on him.  Doesn't look like a easy walk in TD like you're describing.  Maybe he gets in, I can't really say but it's not as definitive as you're making it out to be.

 

That being said you're on an absolute tirade, you're quoting and replying to yourself, so I think it might be time to take a breather.

[HappyDays]

12 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

This isn't a TD to Moss?!!!

That's an EASY 7

 

 

 

Nope. Those 2 defenders standing next to each other on the goal line will reach Moss before he accelerates and they will swarm tackle him. Maybe Alvin Kamara gets in the end zone there. Not Moss. Looks like maybe a 3 yard gain to me and then the Bills probably kick the field goal anyways. Allen needs to wait another couple seconds for a TD to open.

 

Unfortunately about a tenth of a second after this still, Allen has pressure in his face from the DT. That's about 3 seconds after the snap and the Jaguars only rushed 4. This is a really poor example of the point you're trying to make, but a great example of the primary issue that plagued our offense all day.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

8 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

He hits Moss in stride we win the game. This was a common theme all day. 

 

it’s 3rd and goal and there are two Jag defenders on the goal line waiting.  Moss would have probably been tackled around the 3 yd line.  Those LBs are staring at Moss.

Edited November 8, 2021 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine

[JerseyBills]

Moss gets an easy 1st.

Resulted in sack

[GoBills808]

Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

it’s 3rd and goal and there is two Jag defenders on the goal line waiting.  Moss would have probably been tackled around the 3 yd line.  Those LBs are staring at Moss.

He also would need to wait until he could see him come open around the other hash lol unless OP wants him to lob a 5yard pass over the middle on third and goal😂😂

[JerseyBills]

Resulted in sack..

[FieldGeneral]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

He refuses to just get a quick 6 7 yards to the RB or TE real quick, always looking to push and get the intermediate routes and he's phenomenal but you have to also take these easy 5 10 yard passes. 

He killed so many drives because of this.

D played phenomenal 

ST played phenomenal 

O played decent,  but Allen's refusal to throw underneath quickly, when you're facing a ton of pressure is his Worse trait and I love him for it at the same time but today it lost us what should have been a 2 TD win. He killed multiple drives directly because of this against one of the worse teams in the game. 

 

This one was on 17. 

 

You people refuse to admit or admit this fatal flaw. I know I'm going to get flack. I love 17 . Just being real. Giving my opinion. 

 

I notice this specifically on throws where he goes to a receiver in the middle of the field. There are fringe receivers and RBs always open. OK, it may be for 4 yards, but it makes the next play less obvious. Too often we are on 2nd and 10 or 3rd and 8 because Josh is looking for a player in the middle of the field or deep almost everytime. A RB won't get a pass his way unless Josh is looking directly at him and a blitz is staring him in the face. 

[What a Tuel]

10 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Things get quiet when that evidence shows up.. 

 

There's literally 2 Jaguars spying Moss, and 1 off screen (11 bills on screen) so he was available to come up and stop Moss as well. Thats not a TD, thats a guaranteed field goal.

[JerseyBills]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

He also would need to wait until he could see him come open around the other hash lol unless OP wants him to lob a 5yard pass over the middle on third and goal😂😂

I want a laser in stride, by the time defenders react . Maybe make contact at 1 but Moss is gonna bulldoze in. You see it every week. Simple throw

[GoBills808]

Just now, JerseyBills said:

Resulted in sack..

That will happen when there’s an unblocked defender coming before he hits the top of his drop

[What a Tuel]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Resulted in sack..

 

#25 (edit #93) was in Josh Allen's face before Singletary even made it out of his break.

Edited November 8, 2021 by What a Tuel