Allen refusal to throw underneath is killing us. Killing drives. This was on 17 strictly

[Draconator]

17 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

HE HOLDS THE BALL TOO LONG

 

He has to hit them immediately,  his holding onto the ball to much is becoming a problem.

 

 

 

Then submit your application to One Bills Drive if you're so knowledgeable...

Edited November 8, 2021 by Draconator

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Once again prove it

I will...

You'll probably still be in denial

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

I will...

You'll probably still be in denial

I’m waiting

[What a Tuel]

28 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

He refuses to just get a quick 6 7 yards to the RB or TE real quick, always looking to push and get the intermediate routes and he's phenomenal but you have to also take these easy 5 10 yard passes. 

He killed so many drives because of this.

D played phenomenal 

ST played phenomenal 

O played decent,  but Allen's refusal to throw underneath quickly, when you're facing a ton of pressure is his Worse trait and I love him for it at the same time but today it lost us what should have been a 2 TD win. He killed multiple drives directly because of this against one of the worse teams in the game. 

 

This one was on 17. 

 

You people refuse to admit or admit this fatal flaw. 

 

I feel like he was doing that constantly actually....

 

Edit: By that I mean dumping it off to Singletary, Beasley and Moss before he went out. 

 

Beasley 8 catches for 35. Not taking the underneath? Cool Take.

Edited November 8, 2021 by What a Tuel

[JerseyBills]

6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I’m waiting

Takes a whole lot, unfortunately There's a few man. I need some time and I'm only doing the last 3 games. 

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by JerseyBills

[par73]

 Screens and quick hitters are blitz beaters. Need designed plays to get the ball out fast. Generally not in Bills' game plan.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

Takes a whole lot, unfortunately There's a few man. I need some time and I'm only doing the last 3 games. 

 

So you’re only doing Mostly losses

[JerseyBills]

Just now, par73 said:

 Screens and quick hitters are blitz beaters. Need designed plays to get the ball out fast. Generally not in Bills' game plan.

We had them! OMG. Watch any 2 drives. Josh thinks he can out run or stiff arm everyone 

Just now, John from Riverside said:

So you’re only doing Mostly losses

Well I'm just doing the 3 latest games. Latest evidence 

He has been doing it all year.  

[What a Tuel]

Just now, JerseyBills said:

We had them! OMG. Watch any 2 drives. Josh thinks he can out run or stiff arm everyone 

 

What are you talking about?

 

Singletary 7 catches for 43 yards

Beasley 8 catches 35 yards

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

We had them! OMG. Watch any 2 drives. Josh thinks he can out run or stiff arm everyone 

Well I'm just doing the 3 latest games. Latest evidence 

He has been doing it all year.  

I just want to give u a quick example. 

I can do all year too

Just now, What a Tuel said:

 

What are you talking about?

 

Singletary 7 catches for 43 yards

Beasley 8 catches 35 yards

How many was he rolling out? 

He needs to get that ball to them in 2 seconds. 

[par73]

2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

We had them! OMG. Watch any 2 drives. Josh thinks he can out run or stiff arm everyone 

Well I'm just doing the 3 latest games. Latest evidence 

He has been doing it all year.  

Did you see a screen?

[Brennan Huff]

He literally checked down like a hundred times

[What a Tuel]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

I just want to give u a quick example. 

I can do all year too

How many was he rolling out? 

He needs to get that ball to them in 2 seconds. 

 

Quite a few. And quite a few got us nothing. I'd argue a few times the quick pass to singletary with 1 half assed block in front of him killed more drives than Allen.

 

The O-line even 6 on 4 couldn't even give Allen more than 2 seconds. I can hardly believe you can consider putting this one on Allen. He makes mistakes when he does too much, as a lot of QBs do. Look at Stafford tonight.

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

We had them! OMG. Watch any 2 drives. Josh thinks he can out run or stiff arm everyone 

Well I'm just doing the 3 latest games. Latest evidence 

He has been doing it all year.  

If Josh doesn’t run or stiff arm out of those those are sacks how hard is it for you to understand that this offense of line is just not doing their job

[par73]

Even Allen, in his press conference, said he needed to get the ball out quicker sometimes. Quick hitters on designed plays will slow down a blitz.

[JerseyBills]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

If Josh doesn’t run or stiff arm out of those those are sacks how hard is it for you to understand that this offense of line is just not doing their job

They had a bad night. 

How do you not understand that's even more of a reason the ball should be out his hand in 2 seconds? 

[What a Tuel]

3 minutes ago, par73 said:

Even Allen, in his press conference, said he needed to get the ball out quicker sometimes. Quick hitters on designed plays will slow down a blitz.

 

Thats fine and all but thats also taking the blame for the O-line not giving him any time. He isn't going to outright blame them. 

 

And with that and this forum and bipolar fanbase imploding after a bad loss, I am going to call it a week for this.

 

Bills fans can be real ugly when we lose. (obviously not referring to you, just the state of the forum.) Its like people come out of the woodwork with a obsession with trashing everything.

Edited November 8, 2021 by What a Tuel

[JerseyBills]

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

If Josh doesn’t run or stiff arm out of those those are sacks how hard is it for you to understand that this offense of line is just not doing their job

He shouldn't be in those positions alot of the time! The ball should have been out 

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

They had a bad night. 

How do you not understand that's even more of a reason the ball should be out his hand in 2 seconds? 

No jersey they have had a bad season now we’re getting into the area of how do you know that the play calls are set up so that there is underneath routes because they are so bad how do you know that it’s not an OC problem

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

He shouldn't be in those positions alot of the time! The ball should have been out 

To who give examples

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

No jersey they have had a bad season now we’re getting into the area of how do you know that the play calls are set up so that there is underneath routes because they are so bad how do you know that it’s not an OC problem

I guess it's possible but I'm seeing guys wide open but instead of an easy short completion (so Dabol obviously has guys running these routes) the QB is passing em up !

Josh almost can't help himself but look for the big play.