HappyDays Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, FireChans said: Moss failed to execute. Beasley failed to execute. Josh made a bad read, failed to execute and fumbled. Okay but every time we run those plays we fail to execute. Eventually you have to stop calling them in critical moments. We all know Allen has an issue choosing what to do with the ball on read option plays, and he is more likely to fumble on those plays. So why does Daboll call that play on the most critical 3rd down of the game? 1 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: We are the #1 scoring offense in spite of Daboll. Yeah I’m sure the game plans are made by someone else. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted November 8, 2021 Author Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: So Sister Mary Catherine should smack McDermott's knuckles in front of the whole class this week, huh? This whole fan base is the definition of Stockholm syndrome. Everything is always fine, no one is to blame and life goes on. 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yeah I’m sure the game plans are made by someone else. So what are you going to say when we fail to make the super bowl, let alone win one? Always next year? Lol Edited November 8, 2021 by IronMaidenBills Quote
Motorin' Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: This whole fan base is the definition of Stockholm syndrome. Everything is always fine, no one is to blame and live goes on. I'm about to cook dinner with the Misses. I havn't been kidnapped and I don't feel the need to kick our dog. But if you must, have at it. Quote
FireChans Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Okay but every time we run those plays we fail to execute. Eventually you have to stop calling them in critical moments. We all know Allen has an issue choosing what to do with the ball on read option plays, and he is more likely to fumble on those plays. So why does Daboll call that play on the most critical 3rd down of the game? Every time we run we fail to execute? What? You’re hysterical tbh. #2 offense in points last year and before today #1 in points and you want to fire the OC. You are literally a “cut Josh!” guy. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: So what are you going to say when we fail to make the super bowl, let alone win one? Always next year? Lol Is this really your response when I say Daboll creates the game plans? This is what you came up with? Quote
buffalo2218 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Not sure I'd go as far as laying the blame at Daboll's feet, some of the issues are him. But perhaps his expectations of the O line aren't being met. I would start questioning this team's O line coach before Daboll. Quote
Scott7975 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: This whole coaching staff is overrated but nobody is getting fired although I suggested we release a bum like Cody Ford immediately to send a message. And I still don't understand why Frazier (and McD) insist on sitting in soft zone especially against a rookie QB and they should have been blitzing on pretty much every down. Be just a little aggressive and the defense probably wins the game today. They scored 9 points. It was the Jags lowest score of the season. Defense was not in this universe of problems. They did their job. O line Daboll There's the two problems with the team. Same problem since the playoffs. 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted November 8, 2021 Author Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Is this really your response when I say Daboll creates the game plans? This is what you came up with? Yes, because I’m tired of losing. I’m tired of having EMBARRASSING games, and I’m tired of being a laughingstock that has an organization that has never won a super bowl. We draft year in and year out, sign FA linemen, draft more, play phone tag with other GMs, take naps, have players quit at halftime, play more phone tag with other GMs, sign players to over priced contracts for little production, bring in talent but underperform, raid other dumpsters for SuPeRbOwLs! When does it end? When will we finally win a Super Bowl? Quote
HappyDays Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: #2 offense in points last year and before today #1 in points and you want to fire the OC. I actually don't want to fire Daboll. I just want him to do a better job understanding his personnel and overcoming some of the basic things defenses are doing to slow us down. And if he happens to get hired away in the offseason I won't be a tiny bit worried. Quote
Scott7975 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. I think they need to find more ways to get Diggs the ball. They have to force it to him some because he will change the way teams defend. At the moment teams are willing to let the Bills have Beasley and the running backs. They are setting up not to let Stef beat them. If we can start getting it to Stef despite that it will change the plans. I don't mean forcing balls I mean forcing it in terms of game plan and especially script - first 15 etc. We are missing Knox as strange as that sounds given what people thought about him coming into the year. Yes. Enough of take what the defense gives. There is a time for that but not the entire game. Yes on Knox this offense is missing him a lot. You can tell. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yeah I’m sure that’ll go over well with the locker room. #1 scoring offense fires its OC?😂 "paper tigers" 1 Quote
Billever76 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, FireChans said: Point to a specific playcall that lost us the game! The shotgun draw in goal to go that resulted in a 3 yard loss was a killer.....the dumb passes behind the los when Jacksonville is squatting on short stuff....daboll cannot scheme a running game for nothing....how many times are we gonna run draws up the gut in shotgun? Just now, Billever76 said: The shotgun draw in goal to go that resulted in a 3 yard loss was a killer.....the dumb passes behind the los when Jacksonville is squatting on short stuff....daboll cannot scheme a running game for nothing....how many times are we gonna run draws up the gut in shotgun? Its not 1 play..its 10 plays of the same caliber being ran over and over regardless if they are failing..its no adjustments 1 Quote
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 At least we all know to bring the expectations down to possible playoff team and no SB. There is no way in hell that this team is going to the SB this year. We need to rebuild the whole O-Line and RB situation. These are not small fixes and will prevent us for making out of the 1st rd of the playoffs Quote
JohnNord Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: So we are paying Allen millions of dollars to poop the bed? Blame has to go somewhere. Our Oline is bad, but it’s not scoring a touchdown against the Jags bad. No it was “not scoring a touchdown against the Jags” bad. This was probably the worst performance ever by a Bills offense in years. You have to consider that Jacksonville ranked toward the bottom in every defensive category, yet our line couldn’t do crap. The problems in this game begin and end with the OL. They couldn’t pass block or run block. Try scheming your way around that. 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Okay but every time we run those plays we fail to execute. Eventually you have to stop calling them in critical moments. We all know Allen has an issue choosing what to do with the ball on read option plays, and he is more likely to fumble on those plays. So why does Daboll call that play on the most critical 3rd down of the game? Because just about every call that he made was blown up by the OL. Funny how people blame Daboll for a terrible performance by the line 13 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Yes, because I’m tired of losing. I’m tired of having EMBARRASSING games, and I’m tired of being a laughingstock that has an organization that has never won a super bowl. We draft year in and year out, sign FA linemen, draft more, play phone tag with other GMs, take naps, have players quit at halftime, play more phone tag with other GMs, sign players to over priced contracts for little production, bring in talent but underperform, raid other dumpsters for SuPeRbOwLs! When does it end? When will we finally win a Super Bowl? I never block anyone here…. so this is a first Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Yes, because I’m tired of losing. I’m tired of having EMBARRASSING games, and I’m tired of being a laughingstock that has an organization that has never won a super bowl. We draft year in and year out, sign FA linemen, draft more, play phone tag with other GMs, take naps, have players quit at halftime, play more phone tag with other GMs, sign players to over priced contracts for little production, bring in talent but underperform, raid other dumpsters for SuPeRbOwLs! When does it end? When will we finally win a Super Bowl? Okay so you’re just dramatic. Quote
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 Bottom line we don’t have the O-Line or the RB’s to win a SB. We are a soft team and I don’t see it happening this year. 1 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted November 8, 2021 Author Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: No it was “not scoring a touchdown against the Jags” bad. This was probably the worst performance ever by a Bills offense in years. You have to consider that Jacksonville ranked toward the bottom in every defensive category, yet our line couldn’t do crap. The problems in this game begin and end with the OL. They couldn’t pass block or run block. Try scheming your way around that. Because just about every call that he made was blown up by the OL. Funny how people blame Daboll for a terrible performance by the line Then this is Beane’s fault. He hasn’t done enough to give Allen the tools he needs to succeed. He brought in FA linemen and drafted Ford. Brown looks promising but that isn’t enough. He better draft 3 or more lineman this upcoming draft or he can start looking for a job. 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Okay so you’re just dramatic. I’m a Bills fan tired of mediocrity. Quote
BBills88 Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Dabol need time off to deal with the loss of his family members. Let Ken Dorsey get a shot for a few games. His play calling has been off since the loss of his grandparents. Edited November 8, 2021 by BBills88 Quote
FireChans Posted November 8, 2021 Posted November 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Billever76 said: The shotgun draw in goal to go that resulted in a 3 yard loss was a killer.....the dumb passes behind the los when Jacksonville is squatting on short stuff....daboll cannot scheme a running game for nothing....how many times are we gonna run draws up the gut in shotgun? Its not 1 play..its 10 plays of the same caliber being ran over and over regardless if they are failing..its no adjustments Jesus Christ man. so they are squatting on the short stuff, squatting on the run game, not letting us throw deep? MAYBE, just MAYBE, the Bills played like ass instead. Quote
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