BullBuchanan Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: The debate is over, Breida needs to be active every week. He scored 2 TDs from within the red zone tonight, and red zone offense has been our weak link all year long. Neither of those TDs would have been scored by Singletary or Moss. They wouldn't have gotten open in time on the TD pass. They wouldn't have accelerated to the end zone that quickly on the TD run. Take those 2 TDs off the board and consider how much we've struggled in the red zone this year, who knows how those drives finish? Breida creates explosive plays in the red zone. Zero reason he should ever be inactive again. 100%. Singletary/Moss are close enough in ability despite different styles that I don't think we benefit that much by activating the two of them at Breida's expense. Neither one is a starting caliber player, IMO. Quote
HappyDays Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Neither one is a starting caliber player, IMO. Agreed. They are both decent #2 RBs. They rarely if ever create explosive plays. It was mind boggling to watch the Bills score a rushing TD from 15 yards out. I had forgotten that was possible. Breida is limited in his own ways but his skill set is worth having available. Edited November 15, 2021 by HappyDays Quote
newcam2012 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Matt Breida needs more burn Outside zone is his baby and that’s what we run he’s also the best pass catching back we have on the team Agree 100%. Breida's ability to hit a home run or big chunk plays can be important asset/addition to the Bills offense. He should be getting 5 plus touches a game. Quote
Doc Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: We actually don’t even know what the playcalling that was I want to think that it’s a miss chip Block and Brieda Has barely played I can forgive him for that but I don’t know Josh was looking the other way Breida didn't even make a move towards the blitzer so that's why I think it wasn't his responsibility to chip the guy. I don't know. But Josh should have seen it coming. Quote
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Did he fumble twice? I was at the game and couldn't always tell who it was. Quote
zow2 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 The fumbling will be an issue. McDermott won't trust Breida in critical situations to carry the rock out of the backfield unless he cleans that up. Quote
Frostbite Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Doc said: I’d be more inclined to put that on Josh. Breida was concentrating on getting into his pass pattern. Agree. Was he supposed to chip there? seemed like it wasnt designed that way. Jets just called a good play against our protection. Quote
Doc Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Did he fumble twice? I was at the game and couldn't always tell who it was. Once. 1 Quote
Rc2catch Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 I think Breida should 100% stay active and handle 10-20 snaps a game. He’s contributing on special teams as well. I would really like Daboll to put him in the McKenzie role on the jet sweep motion. 1 1 Quote
Thunderstruck Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think Breida should 100% stay active and handle 10-20 snaps a game. He’s contributing on special teams as well. I would really like Daboll to put him in the McKenzie role on the jet sweep motion. I like this idea- and I think this is the offense that we should have been running against Jacksonville in the 2nd half 1 1 Quote
SCBills Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think Breida should 100% stay active and handle 10-20 snaps a game. He’s contributing on special teams as well. I would really like Daboll to put him in the McKenzie role on the jet sweep motion. Whether it's McKenzie, Breida, Diggs/Sanders, or all of the above.. the jet sweep action better be a staple of this offense moving forward. No clue why we didn't do any of it through half of the season, but we can play off it so well in both the running game and passing game. 1 Quote
Rc2catch Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, SCBills said: Whether it's McKenzie, Breida, Diggs/Sanders, or all of the above.. the jet sweep action better be a staple of this offense moving forward. No clue why we didn't do any of it through half of the season, but we can play off it so well in both the running game and passing game. I’ve been kinda whining the last few weeks about it quite a bit. It’s the main difference I see from last year to this, not just in the offense but the key to me is the pass blocking. That extra second the defenders have to wait to see if the ball is actually handed off might be the extra second Josh needs to avoid pressure or get the ball away clean. McKenzie is definitely not the only guy capable of doing it. And if we don’t want to use Diggs or sanders the next logical choice to me is Breida. They used him similarly in the preseason 1 Quote
SCBills Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I’ve been kinda whining the last few weeks about it quite a bit. It’s the main difference I see from last year to this, not just in the offense but the key to me is the pass blocking. That extra second the defenders have to wait to see if the ball is actually handed off might be the extra second Josh needs to avoid pressure or get the ball away clean. McKenzie is definitely not the only guy capable of doing it. And if we don’t want to use Diggs or sanders the next logical choice to me is Breida. They used him similarly in the preseason What's wild to me is how different our offense was yesterday. Not just because we looked good, but because it was so fundamentally different.... We went from 95% shotgun snaps with our running game consisting of shotgun inside handoffs to Moss/Singletary to a mix of under center/shotgun, heavy PA, inside/outside run plays and jet sweep motion. I'm certainly happy to see this, but also shocked at how different we looked and why it took to the halfway point of the season to see it. 1 1 Quote
Gambit Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Did he fumble twice? I was at the game and couldn't always tell who it was. Singletary was the other one who fumbled 1 Quote
JoshAllin Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/matt-breida/ I like who he was best comparable to on here and I was a fan of him and his speed but forgot what exactly happend to him Edited November 15, 2021 by motorj Quote
The Dean Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 20 hours ago, Herc11 said: You forgot the missed chip block that almost got 17 killed 20 hours ago, Doc said: He didn’t even make a move towards the defender. He just went into his pass pattern. That’s why I don’t think that his job was to even chip the defender. OK I finally see this being discussed. I noticed this as well. I think protecting the QB HAS to be a priority in this case. I'm not saying that was his responsibility as I simply do not know (and neither do any of you). But I'm guessing Moss would have at least chipped him on the way out. Couldn't he at least given Josh a heads-up? He clearly did not know the defender was coming unabated. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 I'm still not sold on breida yet... His fumble was literally JV esque It's scary to think you might give him the ball in a crucial playoff game.. a few touches and a fumble is scary but he is explosive Quote
billsfan89 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 I think Breida brings something good to the backfield. Moss is a power back, Singletary an all around back and Breida brings speed out of the backfield. All three add something to the backfield. Quote
MJS Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, The Dean said: OK I finally see this being discussed. I noticed this as well. I think protecting the QB HAS to be a priority in this case. I'm not saying that was his responsibility as I simply do not know (and neither do any of you). But I'm guessing Moss would have at least chipped him on the way out. Couldn't he at least given Josh a heads-up? He clearly did not know the defender was coming unabated. I just don't think that's how it works. His job was to run his route. Routes are all about timing. He did his job. It's Allen's job to identify blitzers presnap and make the checks to account for them, or for blockers to adjust and pick up blitzers post snap. Quote
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