11/7/21 Bills @ Jaguars Postgame Thread

[mannc]

33 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Yeah waive him based on one play. 
 

Next time you randomly ***** up at work, I hope people aren’t calling for your job… I mean seriously dude. I’m sure your body of work far outweighs the one ***** up 🤦🏻‍♂️

His “body of work” this year is skeletal…

[UKBillFan]

5 minutes ago, major said:

If this has been said before, I apologize (been at work): ever since we beat Kansas City I feel our team has taken the foot off the gas. Anyone else see this? I still think we go to the super bowl, but I now feel we have to go through Baltimore or Las Vegas to get there (before I felt they had to go through us)

 

It feels like the Chiefs was our Super Bowl and we've ranged from average to 0-17 level since then.

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

But what caused him to make that decision? 
 

Get to the root of the issue. 

His head. Unless you are saying he is Derek Carr in two weeks 

Edited November 7, 2021 by MAJBobby

[JGMcD2]

Just now, mannc said:

His “body of work” this year is skeletal…

So we throw out last year and judge everything off of the fact that Knox emerged and Sanders has a big role in the offense so Davis has played less?
 

Oh and of course the fact that Davis dropped 1 pass. 

[Governor]

4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

In week one.  When we lost to the Steelers.  I get your point.  But the offensive play calling today was brutal.  Reminded me of the KC playoff game. 

It reminds you of the KC game because the line is so bad. 
 

Play-calling can’t fix that.

 

This is why I’m hesitant to put blame on coaches and coordinators. 
 

You can put blame on Beane for thinking he can win a SB with a late 2nd rounder as your franchise  LT.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Governor

[No_Matter_What]

Coming back after 2 hours of gaming.

 

Can somebody update me?

 

Has reasonable discussion already started or people are still firing everybody left and right?

[BaaadThingsMan]

42 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Player of the week

The NFL is loving this storyline right now 

[JGMcD2]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

His head. 

And what has caused Josh to say in his head “I need to escape the pocket” ? 

[MAJBobby]

5 minutes ago, mannc said:

He’s done nothing all year…

Compare his TGTS this year vs Last. His snap count this year vs last year 

[Barnaby Wilde]

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/trump-talks-trash-about-bills-pegula-on-twitter/article_eefbc498-6161-58b4-8630-6c9316661c99.html

I don't mean to troll the Bills.  I was hoping that someone might pick up on the fact the Pegulas are the least wealthiest owners in the league to my knowledge, and to create discussion that if they were more on par with other owners in the league, they wouldn't have to skimp on an efficient OL.  Is this plausible?  I do have to wonder what a Donald Trump owned Buffalo Bills would look like at this point.  One thing is is for sure, he might never have been the President of the United States if he had acquired the Bills.

Edited November 10, 2021 by AbsoluteMeatHead
Context.

[JGMcD2]

Just now, Governor said:

It reminds you of the KC game because the line is so bad. 
 

Play-calling can’t fix that.

 

This is why I’m hesitant to put blame on coaches and coordinators. 
 

You can put blame on Beane for thinking he can win a SB with a late 2nd rounder as you’d franchise LT.

That Belichick guy sure is an idiot for thinking he can win multiple Super Bowls with a late 6th rounder at QB. 
 

Who gives a ***** about draft position as it relates to current performance? Dawkins has been a good LT prior to this year. 

[MAJBobby]

5 minutes ago, vincec said:

 

You can't run play action when your OL is getting spanked in pass protection. They are slow developing plays and the defenders are in the QBs face way too quickly. It has nothing to do with how well you're running the ball.

That is a different argument. The poster I was responding to says you need to run the ball for play action. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

Is it time to get real,

 

This team is not a superbowl contender this year.  Look up my posts last year while we were in the playoffs.  I said we needed to get rid of Singletary and Moss.  Our running backs are both junk... terrible, they still are. We need to start running the ball but we need better running backs for this to happen.  Thanks to Beane.  No improvement because of his decisions.

 

Our OL is terrible and are made up of overpaid underperforming talent from other teams.  And yeah the OL really sucks.  But you have to be able to adapt at what a team is throwing at you during game time.  Josh hasn't and neither has Daboll.  Josh's second INT in this game is proof of him not making good decisions.  That ball should never have been thrown.  I am not asking for him to be perfect but I also would expect him to be more capable at reading what a defense is doing and make adjustments.  Today he was flat out bad...terrible.  He is playing hero ball again this year and that is not what a $250 mil quarterback does, and will not win doing it either.

 

Josh last year did not miss as many throws or has been off target like he has been this year, through 8 games.  I will usually watch the games twice.  Just to see where we made bad decisions and through 8 games this year Josh has had more bad throws, that have been off target or thrown way behind a targeted receiver causing the receiver to stop and or reverse their direction just to try and even attempt a catch.   He has missed to many open receivers that could have resulted in a huge offensive gain or play. Compare that to last year when he was actually leading the receiver or making the throws where the receiver could actually make the catch in front of them, without some super human effort to come down with the ball. 

 

He still gets rattled when being rushed from the outside and not stepping up into the pocket to get rid of the ball.   Even when our OL was some what healthy which now it is not, he still can't deal with the pressure and Daboll is not helping him with plays to neutralize this pressure.

 

Vegas thinks this team is a top 5 superbowl team odds wise.  We have not beaten a team that has had a .501 record or better this year. Period!!!   Since when is a team a superbowl contender that has not beaten a single team with a more than a .500 record.  Vegas is drinking the Kool-Aid like they always do, and so are some other NFL experts too.  We will not even win our division which is sad but true.

 

 

I don’t think we will be a super bowl ‘contender’ after this week…the offensive line has been bad all year even when healthy. He made some terrible decisions today but leading up to this game josh has been playing very well imo. The games where our offensive line was bad last year he was even worse than this 

[BillsFan130]

5 minutes ago, IronyAbounds said:

Question: why do the running backs get labeled terrible despite running behind a terrible OL, but Allen's problems are explained away by a terrible OL? I think Singletary and Moss are perfectly acceptable backs who are just as hampered by the OL as Allen is.

What is good about singletary and Moss?
 

The O line sucks and I'm not saying it's all their fault, but they are so mediocre and don't really have 1 "good" trait between the two of them.

[Bruffalo]

14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

You don’t need an effective run game to run play action. That has been proven over and over and over again. 

 

You need time for play action to develop.  A fake handoff doesn't work when the interior pressure has already beaten their blocks.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

This team better wake the 🤬 up.

 

They’ve just got embarrassed by a 1 win team and lost to the only other 2 decent teams they’ve played.

 

Wake the 🤬 up!

[Governor]

2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

That Belichick guy sure is an idiot for thinking he can win multiple Super Bowls with a late 6th rounder at QB. 
 

Who gives a ***** about draft position as it relates to current performance? Dawkins has been a good LT prior to this year. 

Did you enjoy that performance today?

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

Well it sure as hell helps lol, ask tannehill when he played the bills.

Again all analytics say Effectiveness or play action has no correlation to the effectiveness of the running game. 

[npeartisgod]

“Brady isn't being asked to do everything. He never has been asked to do that.“

 

he was; in the SB loss to NY. He lost it, his cool, his composure, everything — each time he hit the turf. And the score proved it.

[JGMcD2]

1 minute ago, Governor said:

Did you enjoy that performance today?

No, but what does that have to do with your completely irrelevant mention of where a player was drafted?