Sanders again gushing about Allen

[FireChans]

17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I think it's the Cousins that targeted Diggs 450 times in the 4 years before he wept his way out of Minny. 

Diggs got 55 targets less in his last season in Minny compared to his second last. Despite him posting a disgusting 17.9 YPC.

[3rdnlng]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Diggs caught 70% of those passes in those 4 years.  With a much smaller number of targets in Buffalo, he's at 73% (65% this year).

I'm not sure I get your point. Were those passes in Minnesota 2-yard passes or 20-yard passes? Obviously some kind of combination of both. Using partial statistics is pretty useless. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Diggs got 55 targets less in his last season in Minny compared to his second last. Despite him posting a disgusting 17.9 YPC.

 

He was, by almost double, the most targeted WR on that team in 2019, resulting in his highest yardage total while on the Vikings. 

[Albany,n.y.]

28 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I think it's the Cousins that targeted Diggs 450 times in the 4 years before he wept his way out of Minny. 

Cousins must be a magician then.  He somehow found a way to throw passes at the Vikings Diggs when he was playing for Washington.  They only played together for TWO YEARS!  

Edited November 7, 2021 by Albany,n.y.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

I'm not sure I get your point. Were those passes in Minnesota 2-yard passes or 20-yard passes? Obviously some kind of combination of both. Using partial statistics is pretty useless. 

 

Your analogy (hitting the fairway, not chipping and putting) alleged that Cousins wasn't "hitting" his Diggs target.  I was using the statistic that proved that not to be true.

 

His last season was 17+ ypc, so....probably not a lot of 2 yarders in there..

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He was, by almost double, the most targeted WR on that team in 2019, resulting in his highest yardage total while on the Vikings. 

The most targeted WR on a team that was 30th in passing attempts with Diggs and Thielen on it.

 

I think you're missing some crucial info here.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Cousins must be a magician then.  He somehow found a way to throw passes at the Vikings Diggs when he was playing for Washington.  They only played together for TWO YEARS!  

 

 

lol oops you're right.  I will correct:

 

68% or targets caught out of 243 in 2 years.

 

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The most targeted WR on a team that was 30th in passing attempts with Diggs and Thielen on it.

 

I think you're missing some crucial info here.

 

 

The point is that he was, by a mile, the most targeted WR on the team before he left.

[FireChans]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

lol oops you're right.  I will correct:

 

68% or targets caught out of 243 in 2 years.

 

 

 

The point is that he was, by a mile, the most targeted WR on the team before he left.

And he wasn’t happy with his number of targets and the direction of the offense. Because he lost 55 targets compared the next year, because they didn’t throw the ball.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

And he wasn’t happy with his number of targets and the direction of the offense. Because he lost 55 targets compared the next year, because they didn’t throw the ball.

 

He was #9 in targets the year before.  And yes, the drop in targets compared to the previous year was the well known (per him) for his displeasure.  The team wasn't throwing as much, but they were throwing to him over everyone else.  He wasn't being passed over.

[Doc]

33 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

true.  but keep an eye on those target numbers this year though...

 

Naw, he just wanted to get away from Cousins.  Have you seen the way he and Josh (still continue to) interact?

Edited November 7, 2021 by Doc

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He was #9 in targets the year before.  And yes, the drop in targets compared to the previous year was the well known (per him) for his displeasure.  The team wasn't throwing as much, but they were throwing to him over everyone else.  He wasn't being passed over.

Why are you glossing over the change in the direction of the offense? You don’t think he knew they were running the ball and not passing? He should have been happy they basically stopped calling passing plays?

 

Diggs in 2019 had 6 games of 5 targets or less. ONE game where he got double digits targets. 
 

In 2018, he had ONE game where he had 5 targets or less. 9 games where he got double digit targets.

 

Saying he was the most targeted on the team and thus had no grounds to complain is asinine. 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Naw, he just wanted to get away from Cousins.  Have you seen the way he and Josh (still continue to) interact?

 

No doubt he likes Josh better.  Who wouldn't?

 

But you can't say he just didn't like Cousins or "the direction the Offense was going".  Diggs was happier in 2018 despite being on an 8 win team because he was racking up stats (except yards).  A year later, he can't hide his displeasure on a team that won 10 games and a playoff game.  It was all about Diggs and his targets in Minny .  Perhaps he has changed.

Just now, FireChans said:

Why are you glossing over the change in the direction of the offense? You don’t think he knew they were running the ball and not passing? He should have been happy they basically stopped calling passing plays?

 

Diggs in 2019 had 6 games of 5 targets or less. ONE game where he got double digits targets. 
 

In 2018, he had ONE game where he had 5 targets or less. 9 games where he got double digit targets.

 

Saying he was the most targeted on the team and thus had no grounds to complain is asinine. 

 

See above.  Diggs was fine racking up the targets on a dud team the year before.  In 2019 they get to the playoffs despite that Offense's issues---and he had a tantrum DURING that playoff win--complaining about his touches!

 

 

[Mark Vader]

19 hours ago, NewEra said:

I surely hope we do NOT re-sign him.  He said, emphatically, that he would be riding  off into the sunset if we won the SB this year.  
 

Dudes going to come in, win a Lombardi and retire if our OL and coaching staff allows it.

Then after that, Beane and McDermott will ask him....."Hey Manny, do you want to win back-to-back Super Bowls?"

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

No doubt he likes Josh better.  Who wouldn't?

 

But you can't say he just didn't like Cousins or "the direction the Offense was going".  Diggs was happier in 2018 despite being on an 8 win team because he was racking up stats (except yards).  A year later, he can't hide his displeasure on a team that won 10 games and a playoff game.  It was all about Diggs and his targets in Minny .  Perhaps he has changed.

 

See above.  Diggs was fine racking up the targets on a dud team the year before.  In 2019 they get to the playoffs despite that Offense's issues---and he had a tantrum DURING that playoff win--complaining about his touches!

 

 

Because Diggs knows that when a guy is averaging 17.9 YPC, you GET HIM THE BALL. lol.

 

They put up 10 points in the 49ers playoff game and Diggs only got 5 targets. He got 2 targets the week before.

 

Shocked he was pissed.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

No doubt he likes Josh better.  Who wouldn't?

 

But you can't say he just didn't like Cousins or "the direction the Offense was going".  Diggs was happier in 2018 despite being on an 8 win team because he was racking up stats (except yards).  A year later, he can't hide his displeasure on a team that won 10 games and a playoff game.  It was all about Diggs and his targets in Minny .  Perhaps he has changed.

 

If the direction the offense was going meant fewer targets, sure that would have been a problem for him.  And as last year showed, you target him more and he'll produce and the team will do well.  Maybe he just needed to get that off his back, I don't know?  But the bond between him and Josh appears special and likely to weather any decrease in targets, especially as long as they're winning.

[Mr. WEO]

9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Because Diggs knows that when a guy is averaging 17.9 YPC, you GET HIM THE BALL. lol.

 

They put up 10 points in the 49ers playoff game and Diggs only got 5 targets. He got 2 targets the week before.

 

Shocked he was pissed.

 

Was he desperate to get away from Cousins in 2018, when he was top 10 in targets?  Nah.  And obviously his 18 ypc would not have been sustainable over 120+ targets.  He's never come close to that (12 per so far in Buffalo).

 

He was only concerned in the direction of the Offense as it  pertained to his stats.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Mr. WEO

[hondo in seattle]

22 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

147.3 passer rating on throws 30+ yards in the air

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/murrays-magic-daks-patience-and-allens-deep-ball-heres-how-the-nfls-top-qbs-are-dominating-in-2021/amp/

 

 

This is weird.  My impression was that Josh was struggling a little on deep throws this year.  Apparently not!

 

Nobody in the league has attempted more throws of 30-plus air yards than Allen, who has lofted 14 of them.  On those 14 plays, he has nine completions, which have accounted for 375 yards and two touchdowns. That's a 147.3 passer rating.   Only Prescott's is higher (149.3), and he's attempted less than half as many throws as Allen, going 4 of 6 for 163 yards and two touchdowns.   Allen completed four of these passes against the Chiefs alone.  Only four other players have more than four of these completions on the entire season.

[BUFFALOKIE]

Dude sounds like Charlie Murphy. I ciuldnt place the accent but i was guessing Philly or somewhere else in PA. Wrong. Texas. I dont get it. No one born and raised in Texas has that accent. Cool dude nonetheless. 

[Big Turk]

On 11/6/2021 at 12:29 PM, IronMaidenBills said:

Sadly Josh doesn’t know how to find Sanders at times. Josh still hasn’t hit the upper medium to long shot throws. He doesn’t have the Cousins long ball touch yet. Not sure if he’s ever going to be a touch passer on the deep shots. 

We need a Hill type receiver to compliment the WRs we already have. Diggs Sanders Beasley and a “Hill” type receiver. 

 

And yet we still lead the NFL in scoring. Pretty amazing.

[Alphadawg7]

Me:  Sanders loves Allen.

 

TSW:  Arguing about Cousins and Diggs. 
 

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