BillStime Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, Doc said: Not at all. Heaven forbid the GQP actually run on and pass legislation on issues that are favorable to Americans and not Putin. #GQPmanufacturedTANTRUMS 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 13 hours ago, DRsGhost said: Anyone paying attention knows the answer…. generally only the lowest functioning most apathetic members of society don’t have IDs. Democrats have a better ground game to harvest these votes and republicans know it. I saw a study somewhere that if only taxpayers voted, Mitt Romney would have beaten Obama 4 to 1, and we know Obama win in a blowout. It’s a terrible flaw in the American system that sloths that contribute nothing to society and mooch off of others have the same voice as those working their tails off contributing a quarter of their earnings or more.
Doc Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Anyone paying attention knows the answer…. generally only the lowest functioning most apathetic members of society don’t have IDs. Democrats have a better ground game to harvest these votes and republicans know it. I saw a study somewhere that if only taxpayers voted, Mitt Romney would have beaten Obama 4 to 1, and we know Obama win in a blowout. It’s a terrible flaw in the American system that sloths that contribute nothing to society and mooch off of others have the same voice as those working their tails off contributing a quarter of their earnings or more. You need ID to do any number of things in life. Not wanting ID to be shown at voting booths is so that they can get others to vote for people.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Doc said: You need ID to do any number of things in life. Not wanting ID to be shown at voting booths is so that they can get others to vote for people. That doesn’t wash. If it was just about faking votes both parties would do it. This has way more to do with the pulling a bus up to a homeless shelter and offering free lunch for votes, and those votes go to the party of entitlements. Republicans don’t want people that are too lazy or irresponsible to get IDs voting, they know those are the democrat’s entitlement base. Edited August 2, 2022 by Over 29 years of fanhood
Doc Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: That doesn’t wash. If it was just about faking votes both parties would do it. This has way more to do with the pulling a bus up to a homeless shelter and offering free lunch for votes, and those votes go to the party of entitlements. Republicans don’t want people that are too lazy or irresponsible to get IDs voting, they know those are the democrat’s entitlement base. The Repubs could do the same thing.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: The Repubs could do the same thing. Except they are terrible at pretending to support entitlement programs, so that bud load of people are still voting democrat. Plus that party is horrible at community level organization.
BillsFanNC Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) But never you mind about election week 2020 because it was the most secure election in US history! Edited August 4, 2022 by DRsGhost 1
B-Man Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 What We Must Do to Restore Confidence in Our Elections American Thinker, by Bert Peterson https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/08/what_we_must_do_to_restore_confidence_in_our_elections_.html .
BillsFanNC Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 Something tells me that in two short years we will go from having "the most secure election in US history" to being able to question election integrity again without being called a conspiracy theorist. That is if the GOP takes back congress as the polls suggest they will. if that somehow doesn't happen? Well then it will be the most secure election in US history again!
BillStime Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Something tells me that in two short years we will go from having "the most secure election in US history" to being able to question election integrity again without being called a conspiracy theorist. That is if the GOP takes back congress as the polls suggest they will. if that somehow doesn't happen? Well then it will be the most secure election in US history again! BREAKING NEWS
BillsFanNC Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 For it before they were against it or against it before they were for it? https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/us/politics/as-more-vote-by-mail-faulty-ballots-could-impact-elections.html Before reading the quote below consider that in 2020 67 million of the 159 million votes cast were by mail in ballot. Most secure election in US History though!!!! Voting by mail is now common enough and problematic enough that election experts say there have been multiple elections in which no one can say with confidence which candidate was the deserved winner. The list includes the 2000 presidential election, in which problems with absentee ballots in Florida were a little-noticed footnote to other issues. In the last presidential election, 35.5 million voters requested absentee ballots, but only 27.9 million absentee votes were counted, according to a study by Charles Stewart III, a political scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
BillStime Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: For it before they were against it or against it before they were for it? https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/us/politics/as-more-vote-by-mail-faulty-ballots-could-impact-elections.html Before reading the quote below consider that in 2020 67 million of the 159 million votes cast were by mail in ballot. Most secure election in US History though!!!! Voting by mail is now common enough and problematic enough that election experts say there have been multiple elections in which no one can say with confidence which candidate was the deserved winner. The list includes the 2000 presidential election, in which problems with absentee ballots in Florida were a little-noticed footnote to other issues. In the last presidential election, 35.5 million voters requested absentee ballots, but only 27.9 million absentee votes were counted, according to a study by Charles Stewart III, a political scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
BillsFanNC Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 After the 2000 election prestigious institutions in academia weighed in with studies.... What was among their recommendations at the time? Integrity of absentee balloting is a real concern. We recommend use of early voting instead of absentee voting on demand. (Pages 36-41) A real concern after an election the GOP wins, but not in an election where 40 percent of the ballots were mail in? Got it. https://news.mit.edu/2001/voting2facts 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) And finally we have the granddaddy of them all. The 2005 Commission on Federal Election Reform. Chaired by former President Carter and former SoS James Baker. ‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667 But 2020 was most secure election in US History, right? During an election where 42% of the ballots cast were mail in ballots. Far and away the greatest proportion of ballots cast by mail in US History. The exact type of voting that democrats and other left wing outlets had previously warned us were the biggest potential sources of fraud. And poof, magically overnight those parameters become the parameters for the most secure election in US History. That's how I know you morons have been had. Edited August 6, 2022 by DRsGhost 2
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