Everything is perfectly fine with the Raiders. Nothing to see here. These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.

[Andy1]

Maybe personal character does matter when drafting players….

It’s not all about what you can do on the field.

[bigK14094]

At the risk of a serious comment here, I was in Vegas prepandemic, and had a long talk w an ex NFL player who was working there.  His fear was none of the items discussed here.  He was afraid that the Raiders fan base would follow them from Oakland or whereever, and bring a wave of Thugs into Vegas.  That would ,in his opinion, keep the legit non thug customers of Vegas away....and hurt the overall appeal of the city to visitors.  I haven't heard about that effect, but, who knows what is going on "on the ground" out there.

[Ralonzo]

3 hours ago, PonyBoy said:

WTF! So many N words. Why the double standard?

 

Maybe Gruden was the lid on Pandora's box after all.

[Beerball]

4 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

At the risk of a serious comment here, I was in Vegas prepandemic, and had a long talk w an ex NFL player who was working there.  His fear was none of the items discussed here.  He was afraid that the Raiders fan base would follow them from Oakland or whereever, and bring a wave of Thugs into Vegas.  That would ,in his opinion, keep the legit non thug customers of Vegas away....and hurt the overall appeal of the city to visitors.  I haven't heard about that effect, but, who knows what is going on "on the ground" out there.

we must be wary of thugs

[bigK14094]

Just now, Beerball said:

we must be wary of thugs

his words

[Ralonzo]

10 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

At the risk of a serious comment here, I was in Vegas prepandemic, and had a long talk w an ex NFL player who was working there.  His fear was none of the items discussed here.  He was afraid that the Raiders fan base would follow them from Oakland or whereever, and bring a wave of Thugs into Vegas.  That would ,in his opinion, keep the legit non thug customers of Vegas away....and hurt the overall appeal of the city to visitors.  I haven't heard about that effect, but, who knows what is going on "on the ground" out there.

 

Remember when Vegas used to handle out-of-town thugs?

 

 

Edited November 6, 2021 by Ralonzo
Yeah, yeah... they're all out-of-town thugs, it's a desert

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

At the risk of a serious comment here, I was in Vegas prepandemic, and had a long talk w an ex NFL player who was working there.  His fear was none of the items discussed here.  He was afraid that the Raiders fan base would follow them from Oakland or whereever, and bring a wave of Thugs into Vegas.  That would ,in his opinion, keep the legit non thug customers of Vegas away....and hurt the overall appeal of the city to visitors.  I haven't heard about that effect, but, who knows what is going on "on the ground" out there.

 

My family visited Vegas for the first time this past summer.  It was more or less what I expected but wouldn't have a problem returning.  Listening to people that have gone there pre- and post-pandemic, it's changed a lot, for the worse.  But again, that's like the effect of the pandemic more than the Raiders.

[Beerball]

3 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

his words

which you saw fit to "repeat"

 

[PonyBoy]

1 hour ago, bigK14094 said:

At the risk of a serious comment here, I was in Vegas prepandemic, and had a long talk w an ex NFL player who was working there.  His fear was none of the items discussed here.  He was afraid that the Raiders fan base would follow them from Oakland or whereever, and bring a wave of Thugs into Vegas.  That would ,in his opinion, keep the legit non thug customers of Vegas away....and hurt the overall appeal of the city to visitors.  I haven't heard about that effect, but, who knows what is going on "on the ground" out there.

I lived in San Diego for quite a while, met a customer who was a huge Raiders fan, over 50 how he felt about Raiders moving to Vegas. He couldn't be happier he said. Surprised me, it would be like Bills fan saying they were happy Buffalo going to Toronto kind of. I asked why,  he said it was just a 2 hour flight and he wouldn't have to deal with the cretins as he said and a crappy stadium. Well they have a new stadium, but apparently the cretins followed. 

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Remember when Vegas used to handle out-of-town thugs?

 

 

 

Yep and they brought their own wood vice with them.

Warning:  Language and Violence!  

 

 

[BassToMouth]

12 hours ago, Special K said:

 

Leagues didn't want to put a team in Vegas because of the gambling aspect , but I always thought the type of stuff that has happened this week would be more problematic for a team in Vegas. 

So nice and honorable of the league to keep a firm line between them and Vegas! Wouldn’t want anyone to ever suspect there is something illicit going on. 

[Rocky Landing]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

Who would have guessed that it was Nate Peterman keeping the players in line...

In morals and ethics he doesn’t lack

          For spiritual guidance, he’s got your back

                    He’ll give you a clean slate

                              He’s an upstanding team mate

                                        If only he could righteously play quarterback

                                                  Peterman

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:

In morals and ethics he doesn’t lack

          For spiritual guidance, he’s got your back

                    He’ll give you a clean slate

                              He’s an upstanding team mate

                                        If only he could righteously play quarterback

                                                  Peterman

Amen. 😇

[Beast]

This didn't really happen until Derek Carr has a press conference about it.

[Dopey]

8 hours ago, PonyBoy said:

WTF! So many N words. Why the double standard?

Are you asking why can't you use the n word? 

[Beast]

4 hours ago, Dopey said:

Are you asking why can't you use the n word? 

Why would you even insinuate that? You know exactly what he means.

[BuffaloBill]

Makes me appreciate the Bills locker room even more