Jets hire John Beck as FT assistant (Wilson’s personal QB coach)

[YoloinOhio]

Interesting move as I know it has been discussed in the past as to whether the Bills should hire Jordan Palmer. It could be good or bad as not sure where that puts his current QB coach in terms of coaching hierarchy. The original one was the one who tragically passed away in the preseason. 
 

Beck was on the sideline on Sunday in Jets gear. 
 

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

Limits the time he can have with Wilson. Can't work with him in off-season now except OTAs. Keeping them off the teams payroll seems to be the better option as long as you have a halfway decent coaching staff. 

[LabattBlue]

So now they have two QB coaches?   Hahaha.  Jets keep on being the Jets.  Is the goal to eventually have more coaches for a position than players?

[YoloinOhio]

  On 11/3/2021 at 11:38 AM, BTB said:

So now they have two QB coaches?   Hahaha.  Jets keep on being the Jets.  Is the goal to eventually have more coaches for a position than players?

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Looks that way. QB coach is listed as Rob Calabrese.

[LEBills]

Man the kids inner circle is 100% BYU huh?

 

I remember the Bills playing against John Beck…good times

[The Jokeman]

  On 11/3/2021 at 12:22 PM, LEBills said:

Man the kids inner circle is 100% BYU huh?

 

I remember the Bills playing against John Beck…good times

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Yeah he spent a minute with the Dolphins as recall. 

[chris heff]

Smacks of panic 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

They will be pointing at Zach Wilson and telling Beck, “okay— teach that guy over there everything you just taught White.”

[Captain Hindsight]

  On 11/3/2021 at 12:22 PM, LEBills said:

Man the kids inner circle is 100% BYU huh?

 

I remember the Bills playing against John Beck…good times

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[Don Otreply]

  On 11/3/2021 at 11:31 AM, Not at the table Karlos said:

Limits the time he can have with Wilson. Can't work with him in off-season now except OTAs. Keeping them off the teams payroll seems to be the better option as long as you have a halfway decent coaching staff. 

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All the have to do is let Beck go at the end of the season, and he can spend as much time coaching him up as he wants. Not so complicated…, 

[RoyBatty is alive]

  On 11/3/2021 at 2:45 PM, Captain Hindsight said:

 

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That was about the worst offensive play i have ever seen, the announcers were right, "the football follies continue".

[stevewin]

Mike White's personal QB coach wasn't avail?

[BillsFan4]

When Saleh heard Wilson went to work with his QB coach during the bye week I can understand why his first thought was “why not just bring John Beck here?” but I’m not sure I agree with his thinking. I could see if they replaced the QB coach on staff. But the way things stand I feel like this just creates a potential source of conflict.

 

What are the chances these 2 QB coaches don’t see eye to eye on everything? What type of power dynamic does this create? What if they have conflicting views on how they want Wilson doing certain things? Then who does Wilson listen to? Who does the team/Saleh listen to?

 

Robert Saleh said the plan as of now is for Beck to go back to his QB coaching business in the offseason but would Wilson be allowed to work with him?

I feel like the NFL and/or other teams could take issue with that as a way for the Jets to work around the CBA to get Wilson more time with team coaches.

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

  On 11/3/2021 at 2:50 PM, Don Otreply said:

All the have to do is let Beck go at the end of the season, and he can spend as much time coaching him up as he wants. Not so complicated…, 

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Hes still limited during the season and I feel the NFL wouldn't be too happy with them skirting the rules like that

[Don Otreply]

  On 11/3/2021 at 3:13 PM, Not at the table Karlos said:

Hes still limited during the season and I feel the NFL wouldn't be too happy with them skirting the rules like that

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if you’re not breaking the rules…,  otherwise it’s just another ill conceived jets sort of thing to do…., Billsey in their own Jetsey way…, 

[hondo in seattle]

  On 11/3/2021 at 3:10 PM, BillsFan4 said:

When Saleh heard Wilson went to work with his QB coach during the bye week I can understand why his first thought was “why not just bring John Beck here?” but I’m not sure I agree with his thinking. I could see if they replaced the QB coach on staff. But the way things stand I feel like this just creates a potential source of conflict.

 

What are the chances these 2 QB coaches don’t see eye to eye on everything? What type of power dynamic does this create? What if they have conflicting views on how they want Wilson doing certain things? Then who does Wilson listen to? Who does the team/Saleh listen to?

 

Robert Saleh said the plan as of now is for Beck to go back to his QB coaching business in the offseason but would Wilson be allowed to work with him?

I feel like the NFL and/or other teams could take issue with that as a way for the Jets to work around the CBA to get Wilson more time with team coaches.

 

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These are good questions and I know next-to-nothing about the individuals involved.

But I do know that some NFL QB coaches are all about the mental part of the game.  They examine the previous game to see if the QB was executing each play right and throwing to the right man.  And they breakdown the next opponent, pointing out tendencies and opportunities.  

 

Personal QB coaches like Jordan Palmer are different.  They try to improve a QB's mechanics, power, and accuracy.  

 

The two types of QB coaches could conceivably get along.

 

 

[LeGOATski]

This makes me wonder if Wilson was pushing for this and how the rest of the staff really feels about it. Meanwhile, you have Saleh saying "anything is possible" regarding White. It doesn't make sense for them to hire this guy full time. Couldn't Wilson just go work with him outside of practice or he could simply give Wilson things to work on during practice? It makes more sense that Wilson pushed for this vs the coaching staff.

[hondo in seattle]

It was Saleh's idea.  Beck's area of expertise is, indeed, biomechanics.

 

From his website:

 

 

train3dqb.com

 

The current QB coach, Rob Calabrese, is probably focused on the execution of offensive plays and the diagnosing of defenses.

 

 

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

On an unrelated, but maybe related, topic, who was the guy in street clothes on the Bills bench Sunday sitting with Josh? It looked like Josh would speak with him after every bad series.

[hondo in seattle]

  On 11/3/2021 at 5:52 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

On an unrelated, but maybe related, topic, who was the guy in street clothes on the Bills bench Sunday sitting with Josh? It looked like Josh would speak with him after every bad series.

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Davis Webb?