NYS releases Bills stadium study

[pi2000]

retractable roof

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, pi2000 said:

retractable roof

Waste of money. Roof or not. Don't spend and extra $500MM on a sunroof.

[TheFunPolice]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Waste of money. Roof or not. Don't spend and extra $500MM on a sunroof.

 

Agreed! Retractable roof is pointless because it's never open anyway. 

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, TheFunPolice said:

 

Agreed! Retractable roof is pointless because it's never open anyway. 

And when it is, it really isn't. It's a sunroof on a sedan.

[pi2000]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Waste of money. Roof or not. Don't spend and extra $500MM on a sunroof.

 

retractable tarp?

[OZBILLS]

There is only one correct answer. 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

 

retractable tarp?

 

Just scale it up.

 

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

And when it is, it really isn't. It's a sunroof on a sedan.

That is certainly what it it like in Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta. “Oh, look! There’s a hole up there!” 

[uninja]

22 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown?  Destruction of area?

 

Probably combination of required/recommend infrastructure work to support extra vehicular and foot traffic along with funds that will be required to acquire any extra land that might be needed to support the stadium and surrounding complexes. Also extra survey work to determine any environmental impacts, assess soil quality and any potential remediation efforts required. 

[CountDorkula]

Fans may not want a dome but i would bet a lot of money players do. 

 

Players dont like playing in cold weather. 

[BuffBillsForLife]

For the love of god don't put it downtown, the traffic jam would last until tuesday.  The infrastructure can barely handle the daily commute.  Build it across the street from the current one.  I would prefer a dome but it's not a dealbreaker, the important thing is that they don't cheap out and build it 50 feet underground this time.  THAT'S what causes the swirling winds that make it awful to play at.  Open air stadiums work fine in cold cities, e.g., Green Bay, Pittsburgh, KC, NE.

[Draconator]

Browsing the report, I would say spend the extra $300M, and build a new stadium with a roof in OP. That's my choice. Too much anciliary costs with building in Downtown, moving residents and business, demolition of buildings, clean up, building the new stadium. $2.1 Billion would be a ground level cost in my opinion.

[Mickey]

37 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown?  Destruction of area?

that 2.1 billion is a worst case scenario in terms of costs and also includes the most expensive options such as a roof, the low end estimate for a downtown stadium was 350 M more than in OP.  

[QCity]

24 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Just buy the plans from Seattle and build that.  

 

The partially-covered Seattle model has been my preference since it was built. Fantastic design!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

42 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown?  Destruction of area?

 

parking, egress in and out etc

That’s my guess 

[corta765]

Give me Minnesota's glass cover where it shows a ton of sun and natural light to the point it looks like your outside at points if you were to do a roof. Otherwise outdoor do what Seattle has.

[WotAGuy]

5 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Give me Minnesota's glass cover where it shows a ton of sun and natural light to the point it looks like your outside at points if you were to do a roof. Otherwise outdoor do what Seattle has.

That is a beautiful building and doesn’t feel like a typical dome.  The windows at one end do open up. It’s actually got a “mall” feel in the wide open concourses. 
 

My personal preference would be an open stadium with some covered seats. 

[DrDawkinstein]

25 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

For the love of god don't put it downtown, the traffic jam would last until tuesday.  The infrastructure can barely handle the daily commute.  Build it across the street from the current one.  I would prefer a dome but it's not a dealbreaker, the important thing is that they don't cheap out and build it 50 feet underground this time.  THAT'S what causes the swirling winds that make it awful to play at.  Open air stadiums work fine in cold cities, e.g., Green Bay, Pittsburgh, KC, NE.

 

Most of the extra money in the Downtown spec is for building out additional road ways, and infrastructure.

 

If the stadium was already downtown and we were talking about moving it to OP, you'd be saying "For the love of god, Abbott, Southwestern, and the 219 can't handle all that traffic. And a suburb doesnt have the infrastructure needed..." but here we are.

[Bangarang]

Build. A. Dome

[Beast]

I prefer open air but the smart move would probably be a roof. Just hate to think of a 2014 snowstorm and 7 feet of snow on it.