OBJ drama in Cleveland

[Nelius]

4 hours ago, gobills404 said:

 

What's your vendetta against cooks? He's got the 2nd most receiving yards from the 2014 class (behind Evans) and the 6th most in the NFL since he got drafted. Not to mention he's had 5 different QBs. I usually try not to be too harsh but these are straight up garbage takes.

 

Straight up garbage? Lol. He's just not an elite #1. He's not in the same class as Evans, Adams, or Beckham, to me personally, not speaking literally about the same draft class of course. It's okay dude. You can enjoy topping out at the 1100 yards that Brandin Cooks will provide like clockwork, it's not a hill I need to die on. I just consider him a journeyman vet that would be a #2 at best on this or any other elite team. Stevie Johnson, Houshmanzadeh territory. Nice, but not elite.

 

And will add some context to my garbage - I'd rank that class Evans, Adams, Robinson, Landry, Beckham, then Cooks. 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Nelius

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

No - I think the agent said Trade or cut him - benching him was the Browns choice when they couldn’t trade him.

 

Listening to Mayfield - I think they know who released the tweets using Odell’s Dads account.  It sounds like Mayfield and Beckham have not really been talking and Mayfield stated he has not talked to Odell since “his” tweet.

 

We will see, but he was excused again today - so it was not an isolated instance.

 

OK, so the team has benched him because they think he made nasty tweets critiquing Mayfield/the Browns that ostensibly came from his dad?

 

I'm just trying to sort this out.

[Chicken Boo]

On 11/2/2021 at 10:47 AM, YoloinOhio said:

He’s declining, expensive, and for whatever reason baker plays worse when he’s out there. He’s no more than an average WR right now. 

 

I strongly disagree.  Baker just sucks, is all.

 

OBJ is in the same predicament Allen Robinson is currently in.

Edited November 4, 2021 by Chicken Boo

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, Nelius said:

 

Straight up garbage? Lol. He's just not an elite #1. He's not in the same class as Evans, Adams, or Beckham, to me personally, not speaking literally about the same draft class of course. It's okay dude. You can enjoy topping out at the 1100 yards that Brandin Cooks will provide like clockwork, it's not a hill I need to die on. I just consider him a journeyman vet that would be a #2 at best on this or any other elite team. Stevie Johnson, Houshmanzadeh territory. Nice, but not elite.

 

And will add some context to my garbage - I'd rank that class Evans, Adams, Robinson, Landry, Beckham, then Cooks. 

He's honestly much better than Stevie Johnson

 

Stevie was the byproduct of great chemistry with one quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick

 

Cooks gets it done with a host of them at a pretty high level.. he would be a solid two on pretty much any NFL team.

[Nelius]

54 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He's honestly much better than Stevie Johnson

 

Stevie was the byproduct of great chemistry with one quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick

 

Cooks gets it done with a host of them at a pretty high level.. he would be a solid two on pretty much any NFL team.

 

Fair enough, that may have been harsh. My point was that he'd be a solid #2, but I think he's a step back from OBJ, so again I'd be cool with a Browns downgrade.

 

However, I want to hear more about this terrible QB instability that Cooks endured with...Drew Brees and Tom Brady.

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

Fair enough, that may have been harsh. My point was that he'd be a solid #2, but I think he's a step back from OBJ, so again I'd be cool with a Browns downgrade.

 

However, I want to hear more about this terrible QB instability that Cooks endured with...Drew Brees and Tom Brady.

I don't think I ever said he had terrible QB play... I said he was a QB who was proven with multiple QBs and schemes which is definitely respectable 

 

Lots of WRs couldn't produce with Brady , he did... He also produced with the saints in a different offense .. the Rams and then Houston 

 

He isn't a system guy or a 1 QB chemistry guy

[Nelius]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't think I ever said he had terrible QB play... I said he was a QB who was proven with multiple QBs and schemes which is definitely respectable 

 

Lots of WRs couldn't produce with Brady , he did... He also produced with the saints in a different offense .. the Rams and then Houston 

 

He isn't a system guy or a 1 QB chemistry guy

 

That was for the other guy, sorry. He mentioned that Cooks has had 5 different QBs but failed to mention that two of them were first ballot HOFers.

 

Do you think Cooks is a better WR than OBJ? 

[Blank Stare]

Call me nuts, but if he gets released and clears waivers I’d kick the tires for the stretch run. Dude is a drama queen, but he is super talented and just wants to win. He’d get that here. Not only that, I feel the culture and locker room here is strong enough to keep him in check. Diggs, Sanders, Beas, OBJ in 4 WR sets?! Good luck defenses. 

[HamSandwhich]

Throwing s*it at the wall and seeing what sticks? 
 

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEDFRmQc6M4ifjT_gIK8TmzoqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowvqX_CjDFtfgCMIPcpAY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

[Norcalbillsfan]

2 hours ago, TheProcess said:

Call me nuts, but if he gets released and clears waivers I’d kick the tires for the stretch run. Dude is a drama queen, but he is super talented and just wants to win. He’d get that here. Not only that, I feel the culture and locker room here is strong enough to keep him in check. Diggs, Sanders, Beas, OBJ in 4 WR sets?! Good luck defenses. 

Honestly I don't think we need his drama. But not gonna lie I'd love to see him on the bills and try to pull his crap on mcD or with josh. You see those wrs yell at the qb on the sidelines to give them the ball, and watch josh tell him to sit the **** down.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

It won't be drama. If the Bills signed OBJ  it'll be a huge boost initially. He probably doesn't play until week 10. He'll be here 9 games and the playoffs.

 

People act like he'll get here and start fighting everyone to be the alpha dog or something. Lol. He'll just try to fit in. He won't have a chance to cause drama.

 

The WR room is actually one of the most veteran groups on the team. He's not going to cause problems.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[YoloinOhio]

 

[billieve420]

Definitely have to investigate this for no other reason but to prevent other teams from potentially signing him like KC and Tampa both of which we will be competing against.

[YoloinOhio]

16 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

Definitely have to investigate this for no other reason but to prevent other teams from potentially signing him like KC and Tampa both of which we will be competing against.

He’s going on waivers. 

[Andrew Son]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He’s going on waivers. 

Have to pay his current salary if claimed?

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, SWATeam said:

Have to pay his current salary if claimed?

That’s what all this back and forth has been with the browns. They won’t release him until they’ve restructured his contract to the point where it will be feasible and attractive for a team to claim him. They don’t want him signing with a contender in the afc. 

[billieve420]

13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He’s going on waivers. 

 

Yeah I hear they are working on that before they release him. I would consider putting a claim for no other reason but to prevent KC and Tampa from getting him.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

You could replace OBJ with Antonio Brown last year on every message board. I get how fans are, but we're talking  a few games at a minimum salary.

 

He's going to a contender. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

3 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

 

Yeah I hear they are working on that before they release him. I would consider putting a claim for no other reason but to prevent KC and Tampa from getting him.

KC is ahead of us in the waiver order. Not sure if Tampa is or not. 

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

You could replace OBJ with Antonio Brown last year on every message board. I get how fans are, but we're talking  a few games at a minimum salary.

 

He's going to a contender. 

Not if he’s claimed by a team at the top of the waiver order