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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Okay.  If the location is "ideal"....could he heal in time this season to play?

 

without knowing the exact location/type of fracture, I really can't even speculate. It also depends if there is any associated soft-tissue avulsion (i.e., Lisfranc injury)

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1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Hate to see any player get injured. This would be a real tough loss for the Titans. Their running game and play action game will be nowhere near the same without Henry.

As great as he is, Henry is still just a running back and this is 2021.  This is not nearly as big a setback for the Titans as it would be for a team losing its franchise QB. I don’t believe the Titans will suffer nearly as much as some predict.

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1 minute ago, starrymessenger said:

Oh I would definitely take the win and run with it obviously. What I’m saying is if I had a choice of playing them with or without Henry I’d rather take on their best. I take no pleasure or derive any comfort from seeing great players go down - even if it improves my chances.

How ‘bout you?

I don't like seeing players hurt either . I never said I take pleasure seeing players injured. Henry is great to watch but season goes on and if we play them we have a better chance to win....assuming we're healthy

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1 hour ago, mannc said:

Hate to see anyone injured, but when you give a RB that many touches, he’s going to get dinged up. I have feeling the Titans will still be very tough without Henry.

 

I don't know.  I'm one who believes that Tannehill is a much better QB than many on here believed (he got Gased in Miami).

 

But, there's no question that the Titans whole offense is currently designed around King Henry.  Their passing game is open when teams try to contain him.

 

Uncertain whether Todd Downing can revamp the offense to work differently, if he's out for any length of time.  (I'm pumping the brakes on the "season ending" talk just yet)

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Full disclosure I'm a cardiologist and not an orthopedist.  And I admit my errors. 

 

Looks like overuse can be a cause of this type of injury or fracture but also an acute break can occur.  Not sure how that plays into his number of carries as opposed to all the times he runs during practice or training.   Probably will never know.  

 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315039

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6 minutes ago, mannc said:

As great as he is, Henry is still just a running back and this is 2021.  This is not nearly as big a setback for the Titans as it would be for a team losing its franchise QB. I don’t believe the Titans will suffer nearly as much as some predict.

 

He is not just any running back. I can't think of another running back in this league that could step in and provide what Henry provides for the Titans, in terms of production and offensive play calling opportunities based soley on how a defense plays Henry.

 

I still think they would be a good team, just not nearly as good.

 

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8 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

without knowing the exact location/type of fracture, I really can't even speculate. It also depends if there is any associated soft-tissue avulsion (i.e., Lisfranc injury)

 

Thanks.  I asked because I don't want him coming back this year lol.  I hate to see injuries but I haven't seen a Super Bowl Trophy in my lifetime.  The Titans with Henry would be my biggest worry in the playoffs.

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1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

He is not just any running back. I can't think of another running back in this league that could step in and provide what Henry provides for the Titans, in terms of production and offensive play calling opportunities based soley on how a defense plays Henry.

 Exactly, and exactly why the days of “franchise running backs” has disappeared from the NFL. Any player is one play away from retirement but RB’s have far more likely hood of the “one play” as compared to a QB.

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3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

He is not just any running back. I can't think of another running back in this league that could step in and provide what Henry provides for the Titans, in terms of production and offensive play calling opportunities based soley on how a defense plays Henry.

 

I still think they would be a good team, just not nearly as good.

 

I remember a few years back, when Todd Gurley was getting MVP mentions as the Rams’ feature back. When he went down with an injury, the Rams plugged in Malcolm  Brown and they didn’t miss a beat.  I know Henry’s better than Gurley was, but the Titans are also a pretty solid all-around team.  I still think they win the division and go 12-5, or better.

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4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 Exactly, and exactly why the days of “franchise running backs” has disappeared from the NFL. Any player is one play away from retirement but RB’s have far more likely hood of the “one play” as compared to a QB.

 

Franchise QB's these days are good for 15 years.  It's up from the earlier days like in the 80's and 90's.  10 years would be great.

 

But RB's these days, usually are good for about 5-6 years and then they fall off a cliff.  That hasn't changed since the 80's and 90's.  

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Just now, mannc said:

I remember a few years back, when Todd Gurley was getting MVP mentions as the Rams’ feature back. When he went down with an injury, the Rams plugged in Malcolm  Brown and they didn’t miss a beat.  I know Henry’s better than Gurley was, but the Titans are also a pretty solid all-around team.  I still think they win the division and go 12-5, or better.

The next leading back without "missing a beat" Has 38 yards

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15 minutes ago, mannc said:

As great as he is, Henry is still just a running back and this is 2021.  This is not nearly as big a setback for the Titans as it would be for a team losing its franchise QB. I don’t believe the Titans will suffer nearly as much as some predict.

 

Tennessee will still win that division because, well, who else is there? I think their shot at the #1 seed is pretty much gone though and they are far less of a threat in the post-season without Henry.

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Just now, mannc said:

I remember a few years back, when Todd Gurley was getting MVP mentions as the Rams’ feature back. When he went down with an injury, the Rams plugged in Malcolm  Brown and they didn’t miss a beat.  I know Henry’s better than Gurley was, but the Titans are also a pretty solid all-around team.  I still think they win the division and go 12-5, or better.

 

I do think they would still be a good team and in the playoff hunt. However, I just don't think they would be a champioship caliber team. Hopefully, for Henry and the team, they don't have to find out.

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21 minutes ago, mannc said:

As great as he is, Henry is still just a running back and this is 2021.  This is not nearly as big a setback for the Titans as it would be for a team losing its franchise QB. I don’t believe the Titans will suffer nearly as much as some predict.

This is exactly the type of setback for the Titans as it is for a team with a franchise QB.  Their entire offense is built around his physicality.  There isn't another player on their roster that could have ripped off that long run he had on the Bills that Henry had.  That's huge.  The reason Tannehill is so effective is because teams have to gear to stop Henry and how he keeps grinding on teams the entire game, even getting stronger as the game goes on.  They will be nothing near what they are with Henry.  He is the only exception to the rule about RB's in today's NFL.  

 

Doesn't mean they won't win their division, but the Titans just lost one of the best offensive playmakers in the NFL.  On a higher level, they won't be the same.....clearly.

 

Without Henry, they are now kind of a Bengals, Raiders type of team.  This is a huge loss for them.  

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1 minute ago, mannc said:

I remember a few years back, when Todd Gurley was getting MVP mentions as the Rams’ feature back. When he went down with an injury, the Rams plugged in Malcolm  Brown and they didn’t miss a beat.  I know Henry’s better than Gurley was, but the Titans are also a pretty solid all-around team.  I still think they win the division and go 12-5, or better.

 

Henry means everything to this offense.  He has 219 carries in 8 games.  He was on pace to shatter the NFL record for most attempts in a season.

Losing Henry to the Titans is equivalent to losing a franchise QB.

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53 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

No it's really not.  I'm sorry to disagree with you.  I'm a physician and what you are saying is just not correct.  

 

I don't know what specialty of physician you are, but can I say you're both right? 

 

One cause of 5th metatarsal fractures is, in fact, overuse - "repetitive microtrauma", see link above for one.

Otherwise, injuries can be random and not necessarily linked to playing time

 

I say "necessarily" because we do have one guy here who makes the argument that some players make themselves injury prone by their style of play.  I was resistant to this POV, but there is a point that if a guy never gives up on a play with a bigger stronger player who has positional leverage, he is more likely to get injured.

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