Subtraction by Addition - Emmanuel Sanders

[Sharky7337]

Since joining the bills it seems like at least a few times a game josh tries to force the ball to him and their often off in timing or chemistry.

 

Hes a great receiver but taking away reps from Diggs and Davis and Beasely that have shown great chemistry in Allen seems to hurt this offense more then help it.

 

Hes a such a great talent to have but your thoughts on what you see!

 

A similar type of situation was discussed last year with the browns and when Beckham went out, the team was better because baker forced the ball less to Beckham and they had better balance.

 

Edit: Some may think I'm blaming him for struggles and I am not. I am simply sometimes seeing it as the chemistry is sometimes forced in situations that may stall drives.

 

Edit2: our third down conversion rate is actually better so far then our overall last year. I still believe that as huge of an asset as he is that it may sometimes effect ball distribution negatively (aka josh wanting to force.the deep shot to him)

Edited November 1, 2021 by Sharky7337

[Big Turk]

What?

 

Dude...stop trying so hard

[TPS]

Deja vu 

[Johnnycage46]

We have the number 4 scoring offense heading into Sunday Night and MNF...and the top 3 teams have played one more game than us.  Not too worried about it at all.

[Warcodered]

Am I having a stroke? Didn't this thread already happen?

[Sharky7337]

Just now, Warcodered said:

Am I having a stroke? Didn't this thread already happen?

I never saw the thread if it's a duplicate apologies 

[The Wiz]

Same thing happened when Diggs joined the team. Took receptions away from kroft.

 

I really hate it when we upgrade our offensive weapons. 

 

Can we get Zay and Kelvin back?

 

🙄

Edited November 1, 2021 by The Wiz

[Sharky7337]

Just now, The Wiz said:

Same thing happened when Diggs joined the team. Took receptions away from kroft.

 

I really hate it when we upgrade our offensive weapons. 

 

Can we get Zay and Kelvin back?

 

🙄

When Diggs joined the team he elevated our offense instantly. It's totally different from what I see.

[Johnnycage46]

Just now, Sharky7337 said:

When Diggs joined the team he elevated our offense instantly. It's totally different from what I see.

 

Points baby...POINTS!!!!

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Sanders has been great. Josh missed him deep again today.  I don't see them forcing the ball to anyone even Diggs waits patiently for his reps.  Yes Davis has seen his numbers drop but that is as much the emergence of Knox as it is Sanders.  With Knox they are more balanced.  Davis will get this chances.  

A few weeks ago everyone thought Cole was the odd man out. 

[Warcodered]

10 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So what are we debating the current offense with Sanders(one of the best offenses in the league) against some hypothetical better offense without him?

 

I mean really?

Pretty well still encompasses my feelings.

Edited November 1, 2021 by Warcodered

[Ya Digg?]

So you came in here with a complaint (after a win where he was barely even targeted) and offered no solution-great thread 

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

When Diggs joined the team he elevated our offense instantly. It's totally different from what I see.

[Sharky7337]

Just now, The Wiz said:

Have our third down and red zone numbers not dropped vs last year? 

[Beach]

every week a different receiver takes the heat 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

I think the emergence of Dawson knox is more the reason for lack of targets else where compared to last year 

[Sharky7337]

2 minutes ago, Beach said:

every week a different receiver takes the heat 

I'm just noticing our offense is less effective at sustained drives and third downs and red zone then it was last year without him.

 

We have hit some big plays with him for sure which is awesome!

[Big Turk]

14 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Same thing happened when Diggs joined the team. Took receptions away from kroft.

 

I really hate it when we upgrade our offensive weapons. 

 

Can we get Zay and Kelvin back?

 

🙄

 

Don't forget about Foster!

1 minute ago, Sharky7337 said:

I'm just noticing our offense is less effective at sustained drives and third downs and red zone then it was last year without him.

 

We have hit some big plays with him for sure which is awesome!

 

We have the second best 3rd down conversion rate next to KC. I don't think you are seeing properly.

[billsfan_34]

22 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

Since joining the bills it seems like at least a few times a game josh tries to force the ball to him and their often off in timing or chemistry.

 

Hes a great receiver but taking away reps from Diggs and Davis and Beasely that have shown great chemistry in Allen seems to hurt this offense more then help it.

 

Hes a such a great talent to have but your thoughts on what you see!

 

A similar type of situation was discussed last year with the browns and when Beckham went out, the team was better because baker forced the ball less to Beckham and they had better balance.

Yeah um no- Sanders takes the top off. Knock it off lol

[Dopey]

Is there a law saying we MUST have a whipping boy every year? Thought it was Edmunds.