Members of Congress fear Gruden’s emails are the tip of the iceberg.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

What in the world does Congress have to do with this ?? They have more important matters to take care of.

 

 

[Southern_Bills]

4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

not sure on that one... been in DC area 30+ years and if there's one thing Snyder loves it is his beloved childhood team.   Plus I believe it's all he has, don't think he will let it go.  It's not like he has other Biz interests of any import, the 'skins are it.   The league will stop well short of forcing a sale (not sure they can do that anyway without a ton of evidence) as he has dirt on them as well.   

 

Yeah, I'm not saying he will. I know his love for his team is large. 

 

I just feel for the league to come out clean they have to work a deal with him where he walks away quietly. Not sure that's possible, but that's what they need.

14 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

What in the world does Congress have to do with this ?? They have more important matters to take care of.

 

 

 

Very true, but when you let tax dollars get involved in your business, along with antitrust law considerations. 

 

You invite the government in, just like baseball and steroids. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

His football career either on the field or on TV is already dead. At this point and time he’s really got nothing left to lose

 

As they say Time heals all wounds.  Give enough time and him asking for forgiveness, can see him getting some type of role back in football.

 

Announcing MNF, or HC in the league, no, but some position by some team, maybe scouting area or something.  Could see it happening years down the road.  Seems others have done worse and got back again.

[The Wiz]

33 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

What in the world does Congress have to do with this ?? They have more important matters to take care of.

 

 

Rich old white men having to worry about emails they sent a decade ago?

 

 

Most of congress has a lot to worry about. 

 

JMO.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Just now, The Wiz said:

Rich old white men having to worry about emails they sent a decade ago?

 

 

Most of congress has a lot to worry about. 

 

JMO.

 

Serves em right LOL

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

What in the world does Congress have to do with this ?? They have more important matters to take care of.

 

I agree with you but then there was the baseball stuff

 

[klos63]

7 hours ago, Beast said:

 

Are they a normal part of the way the league operates?

 

 

I think that's what people want to find out.

[Billznut]

5 hours ago, Muppy said:

He's taking his millions and going away for good how much u wanna bet.....

 

as far as Im concerned Jon Gruden is retired and off my radar which is where he belongs. He's not a Bill, an ex Bill and frankly he and his elevator sneakers can go take a hike. See ya won't miss ya. SMH What a waste of football acumen. If he was from a different era this would not even be out in the light of day though. Harder to prove unrecorded phone conversations eh mates..

 

My own dad was a bigot. I can smell my own. Its a reality of our country and its ugly. Go away Jon you are detracting from human civility.

 

Raiders are my 2nd fav NFL team. It gives me no pleasure this debacle. None. SMH

 

jmo 

Jon Gruden’s emails will be a needle in a haystack if ALL of the NFL’s emails are finally released.  Everyone is focused on Gruden. That is nothing. My guess is the NFL will spend billions to keep the rest of the emails from ever surfacing. 

[Brand J]

Hopefully Goodell is part of this mess. He’s done good things for the game, but I hate how soft the league has gotten under his rule. Give me a commish somewhere between Tagliabue and Goodell and we can get away from the “No Fun League” and flag football for QBs.

[Freddie's Dead]

12 hours ago, Bangarang said:

What is there to fear exactly?

 

Do the words "antitrust exemption" mean anything?  The NFL will do anything to preserve it.

[RiotAct]

4 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Hopefully Goodell is part of this mess. He’s done good things for the game, but I hate how soft the league has gotten under his rule. Give me a commish somewhere between Tagliabue and Goodell and we can get away from the “No Fun League” and flag football for QBs.

I don’t think that toothpaste is ever going back into the tube.

[RobbRiddick]

The issue I see with releasing private emails and allowing their contents to be judged based on how offended the public happens to be is that being offended is such a subjective thing.

 

Let's assume there are emails between owners and Goodell where they are throwing racial slurs at Kaepernick. That one isn't really subjective (I guess to rednecks it would be). 

 

But what about an email where someone says he doesn't believe there should ever be a female head coach? You know someone would be crucified for this and held up as a misogynist. But that could be an opinion where it's not simply black or white. Now for the record I don't agree with this this line of thinking, it was just the first example that came to mind.

 

The problem with society now is that Twitter seems to have a build-in outrage-o-meter which is used to determine whether something justifies a punishment, and that's pretty troubling to me at least.

[Sherlock Holmes]

18 hours ago, RiotAct said:

nice that they have the luxury of worrying about stuff like this.  We must be in a really good place right now.

Problem is they've got video of McD practicing his clapping while reading email...

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Not that I’m diminishing the issue here, but doesn’t Congress have more pressing issues impacting the nation as a whole?  Just spitballing here …..

[Marv's Neighbor]

IF we had Congressional term limits there would be no worries, because everyone that was there, would now be gone.    Now we'll see endless hearings that solve/resolve nothing.

[Coastie]

Congress does have more important things, that's why they have so many committees. Junior members get less important ones to serve on and sometimes they might latch onto a high profile issue to boost their own profile.

 

Or maybe I'm just a bit cynical.

[TheFunPolice]

Roger messed up enormously here.

 

His leaking of emails to destroy Gruden made this an enormous scandal.

 

Also, Florio is in heaven with this stuff. Anything to tear down the league he profits from himself.

[buffaloboyinATL]

Hahaha! Let’s release all the private emails of the self righteous “members of Congress” and then you’ll see real fear.  

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Hahaha! Let’s release all the private emails of the self righteous “members of Congress” and then you’ll see real fear.  

Two wrongs don't make a "right."

 

It's quite sad how many people in this thread voice the opinion, basically, that Congress should not be concerned with a widespread trend of racist, homophobe, and misogynist behavior within the foundations of the NFL, given the level of influence the sport has in modern American society.  

 

What does the NFL have to lose?  How about the fact that they are a de facto and arguably de jure monopoly in violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act?  How about Congress deciding it's time to go after the NFL and deny them their "special" status within the construct of current American law? 

 

So there's that, to name one concern.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Roger messed up enormously here.

 

His leaking of emails to destroy Gruden made this an enormous scandal.

 

Also, Florio is in heaven with this stuff. Anything to tear down the league he profits from himself.

 

lol Goodell leaked the emails?