Scott7975 Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How does the press know that Flores has the biggest say in football decisions, when it's rumored that Flores wanted Herbert over Tua and wanted to stay with Fitz instead of pulling him to start tua? Personally I think Flores needs to channel a bit more Belicheck there. "I already addressed that question - I won't discuss rumors. Any questions about Buffalo?" and then just keep reiterating "I'm here to discuss Sunday's game. Any questions about Sunday's game?" They are rumors. No way to know what's true unless its the horses mouth. Nix and Whaley really wanted Wilson but thought he would be there later. Story came out after Wilson made a super bowl. Whaley really wanted every good QB that was drafted. Stories came out after they shown to be good. I don't buy any of that. Want the QB then get the QB. Don't pass the QB then claim he was wanted with some excuse as to why they weren't taken AFTER they light up the league. Maybe its true maybe its not but the sports media, most media really, puts out more garbage than truth. 1
GunnerBill Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Scott7975 said: They are rumors. No way to know what's true unless its the horses mouth. Nix and Whaley really wanted Wilson but thought he would be there later. Story came out after Wilson made a super bowl. Whaley really wanted every good QB that was drafted. Stories came out after they shown to be good. I don't buy any of that. Want the QB then get the QB. Don't pass the QB then claim he was wanted with some excuse as to why they weren't taken AFTER they light up the league. Maybe its true maybe its not but the sports media, most media really, puts out more garbage than truth. Nix really did want Wilson but thought he would last another round. On Tua.... it doesn't matter whether it is Flores or Grier.... the owner decided on Tua. Simple as that.
Rochesterfan Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I agree Flores is in a tough spot with the media, but I think the right move there is to "cowboy up". Stand tall, smile, look them in the eye, call the reporters by name. Say something like "I am the head coach. I'm here to answer your questions about our next football game in Buffalo this Sunday. I can have no comment on player personnel matters. We're playing the Bills in Buffalo in 2 days, I'll be happy to take questions about that." and then just broken-record variants of the last sentence. It's really his demeanor, more than anything, which doesn't play well - the defensive posture clutching the edges of the podium, the hat shading his eyes, his eyes looking off to the side, his shoulders slumping. This X 1000%. The way he is acting the refusing to look the reporters in the eye. The repeated grasping at the podium and hiding his eyes - all scream lies. If you can’t/don’t want to address the rumors- at least stand there and be honest - most media will at least respect that and move on a bit faster. His posture and actions invited more questions because it just looked like he was not telling the truth. The pauses - the double talk - the aggressive repeating of the questions - they all scream there is something else here - let’s dig at it. Even when McDermott was getting grilled with the uncomfortable COVID questions - the way he would respond (even when he would give no real answer) made it less of an issue. This is an internal discussion - we believe the players have a choice - we provide info and let the choose - etc. No real response, but he answered them took the next question with them and moved forward. 1
JohnNord Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: As I said - I can’t say and won’t speculate. He has been considered the best source for the team in the past for years. I am not sure that changes just because the coach/team is starting to fall apart. No doubt - Armando was a top Dolphins reporter for years and still has a Miami press credential. Not sure why he left to work for an alt-outlet like Outkick. Who knows the truth behind the Miami situation? The only thing we know is that this press conference was not the best look for Flores or anyone in the organization
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2021 Author Posted October 31, 2021 How can you trust anyone within the dolphins org to make the right decision here?
UKBillFan Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Peter King said on Sky in the UK that he was not expecting any major trades. 1
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 This trade is not going to happen. Miami is a dumpster fire but I don't think they are that stupid.
boater Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Move along folks, nothing to see here. Move along. No way the Dolphins give up the draft capital required to get DW. Especially since the the 2021 starting status of DW is in question. I kinda hope I'm wrong. If the Fins gave up the quan (three first round picks) needed to get DW, they'd be a hollow team for years.
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: They drated Tua over Herbert... Yeah that's pretty bad even without hindsight. I don't watch college ball and have no idea how good or bad QBs are going into the draft. I do know that Tua is a small guy and had a pretty bad injury so that would have red flagged me without knowing anything.
mannc Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: I do know that Tua is a small guy and had a pretty bad injury so that would have red flagged me without knowing anything. It’s really that simple. No need to overthink it. 1
RobbRiddick Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 This is how I imagine these months of 'negotiations' to look like '
Rochesterfan Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 That Front Office and Coaching Staff in Miami has to be fired at the end of the season - right? I mean basically they have been infighting about who drafted Tua versus who wanted Herbert. Then the entire Watson fiasco. I know the owner is mostly to blame, but you are not firing him - so is it reboot time?
Process Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 I highly doubt a trade was ever as close as the media made it seem. It's been very obvious that he is not tradeable at this point.
JohnNord Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Process said: I highly doubt a trade was ever as close as the media made it seem. It's been very obvious that he is not tradeable at this point. I disagree. I think it went down the way it’s been reported. Miami wanted contingencies which Houston was unwilling or couldn’t produce. Why else would they not shoot down the rumor like Carolina did?
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