What are your thoughts on Ed Oliver?

[wppete]

Big ED is a monster. I think he is just heating up. Exciting to see him the rest of the year. 

[Don Otreply]

On 10/19/2021 at 7:24 PM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Yes, but not a level the 8th player drafted often gets.  Think may see a similar thing with Edmunds

Not singling you out Ed, nuthin but luv,  but where a player is taken is on the GM/team, it is not on the player, it is such an ill informed statement, so tired of hear this being repeated endlessly for decades by arm chair GMs, and talking heads as if it had any real value. Any miscalculation in draft spot is completely on the organization. 
 

Oh and Ed is a solid asset on our D line.

Edited November 2, 2021 by Don Otreply

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, DCofNC said:

He had a nice game yesterday, gotta have more of that play or he can officially be labeled as a rotational DT with nice upside. Not the guy you pay 15M or a top 10 pick for.  Thought it was a bad pick at the time and I stand by that.  I think this regime has just a little too much pride to not pick up his option, but unless he completely breaks out, they should not.  
 

He joins the growing list of guys they have over drafted and given too much opportunity to.   Thus far, only Allen has been the only early round pick worthy of the position picked.  Edmunds, Ford, Oliver, Eppenessa, and Basham are all looking bad in terms of their production vs the picks to get them.  It’s early on Boogie and Epp, I’ll say Groot looks like a real good pick, but this had better be his floor, not ceiling.  If he keeps growing, that’s going down as a great pick.    If we really get down to it, the first 3 rounds have not been great under Beane, Brown may also be a nice pick, but time will ultimately tell on that.

 

 

It's Oliver's third year and he's continuously made progress. If he continues at his current rate, they should absolutely pick him up. Hell, he's worth the fifth-year option right now without an ounce more improvement.

 

Some of his very recent improvement comes from Lotulelei starting to get doubled in pass situations. Previously it had been Oliver getting the doubles this year. Now we've got two guys giving interior OLs problems in passing situations.

 

And the first three rounds under Beane have been good, so far at least. Not great? Fair enough, but certainly good, and Oliver is a part of that. Edmunds has looked like an excellent pick since probably his second year. Epenesa is showing flashes, but will have to continue to grow ... but that's how these things generally go. 

 

Basham is way way too young to judge. Ford is getting up close to judgment age, though he's not there yet, but if he doesn't improve, he will have been a poor pick. Still has a chance to improve, though.

Edited November 2, 2021 by Thurman#1

[Beerball]

He's the next Aaron Donald, haven't you heard?

[BuffBillsForLife]

He's okay.  

[billsfan89]

Ed had one of his best games against the Fins, playing a 3 tech he finally is back at his natural position. He has been putting in a very good season his best as a pro. Very excited to see how he finishes the season.

[PolishDave]

 

Why do I have the feeling this thread is going to end like this the next time Oliver has an invisible game.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

15 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Not singling you out Ed, nuthin but luv,  but where a player is taken is on the GM/team, it is not on the player, it is such an ill informed statement, so tired of hear this being repeated endlessly for decades by arm chair GMs, and talking heads as if it had any real value. Any miscalculation in draft spot is completely on the organization. 
 

Oh and Ed is a solid asset on our D line.

 

And in other headline breaking news, the sun is expected to set this evening!

[NewEra]

We made me proud on Sunday.  Great game

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Cover1 breakdown on Ed Oliver's game against the Dolphins

 

 

Deserved that game ball IMHO

[Warcodered]

 

[theRalph]

On 11/1/2021 at 4:22 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

Like mentioned earlier in the thread, Ed has flashed a bunch this year. And has had a couple real solid games, including yesterday. I think he's finally being put in a position to succeed now that Star is back.

Star was out — again — yesterday. What's that tell you?

[DrDawkinstein]

14 minutes ago, theRalph said:

Star was out — again — yesterday. What's that tell you?

 

Star is trash? But that's nothing new.

[JerseyBills]

On 10/19/2021 at 10:32 PM, gobills404 said:

He's been great against the run for the most part this year but he's still so incredibly underwhelming as a pass rusher for a 3T with such rare athleticism.

I feel the same. 

Especially with all the talk of him being Aaron Donald lite

[Lofton80]

He battles every snap and might be the only defensive lineman who draws a double team on occasion. NE blocked Star straight up with the center and blocked our DE with TE's and receivers. Either scheme or players don't work. None of our guys can get off a block it seems.  

[BuffaloRebound]

He had a nice pressure that forced a Brady incompletion on 3rd down in the 4th quarter.  

[HamptonBillsfan]

On 10/19/2021 at 10:02 PM, JohnNord said:

Overall, I’m a little disappointed with what we’ve seen from Ed Oliver.   Last year, some had theorized that his lack of production was the result of not having a true 1TDT to take on blockers.   Well Star is back and is having his best season with the Bills, yet Oliver still hasn’t made much more of an impact.  
 

He hasn’t been bad necessarily and can make an occasional splash play.  But he also seems to be a non-factor for long stretches of game and has provided little in terms of a pass rush.  It seems to me that he doesn’t win his matchup enough.  The word on Oliver is that you can take him out of a play completely with a double team.  
 

At this point, if I’m Brandon Beane, I definitely wouldn’t  pick up his option this off-season, unless Ed takes his game to another level this year.   I feel that you can match Oliver’s production with a younger player or a veteran that will sign for a much cheaper deal than what it would take to keep Oliver in town.  

Would you pick up Oliver’s option after this season?

 

Star is back? Star played in 5 games. Star is recovering from Covid. Star suited up for NE and stunk up the field. His best season, I don’t think so. Oliver's been our best lineman.

[BillMafia716ix]

As it stands right now. Ed Oliver is our best down lineman and I don’t think it’s close. 

[LABILLBACKER]

23 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

As it stands right now. Ed Oliver is our best down lineman and I don’t think it’s close. 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Ed Oliver. He's basically had no one reliable next to him all year. Star has been worthless and Harry tries but he's nowhere near a 1T. Several DL guys will be gone. Probably Hughes, Addison,  Butler,  Star and Bryant. Guys like Phillips, Obada, Zimmer and Ankou are just depth. We need a young stud 1T who will battle side by side with Ed.

[Patrick Duffy]

He has improved some this season, but still has not lived up to a top 10 pick...although he is only one man and the Dline in general isn't good so that is a factor also. In any case he hasn't shown enough by any means yet