What are your thoughts on Ed Oliver?

[Royale with Cheese]

I think he’s a very good run defender but a below average pass rusher.  When we drafted him, I thought it would have been opposite.

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I think he’s a very good run defender but a below average pass rusher.  When we drafted him, I thought it would have been opposite.

 

Even after today? He’s a penetrator, either way. Run or pass. 

 

 

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Edited November 1, 2021 by Augie

[gobills404]

This is like the 3rd or 4th game this year where he's been the most disruptive player on the D-line

[Aussie Joe]

On 10/21/2021 at 2:01 AM, SCBills said:

Anyone think Ed Oliver could be a surprise trade candidate before the deadline?  

 

If he can bring back a quality IOL or CB, I'd think we have to entertain it, no?

No... I dont think so...

[Nelius]

23 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I think he’s a very good run defender but a below average pass rusher.  When we drafted him, I thought it would have been opposite.

 

Fair point at some point but still after today? He was great on pass rush. Is this Ed Oliver becoming the Ed we wanted or just an outlier performance? I don't want him on another team right now that's for sure, I think he's played beyond Shaq Lawson for example

[mikemac2001]

He’s getting better hand playing well

[WideNine]

I won't take back what I said earlier because there are too many games where he just disappears.

 

I also predicted he would have a breakout game today against Miami. He shows flashes from time-to-time of the game changer he can be.

 

If he can develop his game where he brings that intensity and consistency each week, then he will justify where he was taken.

 

He had a great game today.

 

 

 

[GreggTX]

Overall I'm disappointed. He's not bad, but not what I was hoping for.

[BillMafia716ix]

Oliver has been solid this year. Not sure what people are watching. When he came out of college he was getting Aaron Donald comparisons and considering how high he was drafted, fans were expecting him to be that type of player. He’s no Aaron Donald but he’s still a solid player

[bmur66]

Solid player. Love his attitude but he needs longer arms.

 

Edited November 1, 2021 by bmur66

[JohnNord]

5 hours ago, WideNine said:

I won't take back what I said earlier because there are too many games where he just disappears.

 

I also predicted he would have a breakout game today against Miami. He shows flashes from time-to-time of the game changer he can be.

 

If he can develop his game where he brings that intensity and consistency each week, then he will justify where he was taken.

 

He had a great game today.

 

 

 

I agree with you.  Oliver played a great game.  Now he needs to build off his solid performance versus Miami.  He’s flashes before but hasn’t been able to put together a string of games.  Let’s hope we see that next 

[Royale with Cheese]

6 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Even after today? He’s a penetrator, either way. Run or pass. 

 

 

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Yeah, even after today.  He absolutely shows flashes but not consistent where I can say he’s a good pass rusher.  I don’t think he’s had a sack or very many pressures overall.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

8 hours ago, Nelius said:

 

Fair point at some point but still after today? He was great on pass rush. Is this Ed Oliver becoming the Ed we wanted or just an outlier performance? I don't want him on another team right now that's for sure, I think he's played beyond Shaq Lawson for example

He's blossoming now, especially for people who know DL play and not just number of sacks etc. He's on the verge of becoming a Pro Bowl caliber player-perhaps even this year.

[nucci]

I hate that he celebrates every tackle he makes by jumping up and bring attention to himself. having said that, he makes plays...just wish he was more consistent

[starrymessenger]

Looks to me like he’s starting to come into his own. It usually takes awhile. Jets fans were ready to trade that bust Q. Williams after his first year and a half in the league. Not so much now.

[GunnerBill]

He was outstanding yesterday. Might have been his best game as a pro. The question still is consistency. He needs to put a run of games at that level together to justify a top 10 pick. He is a good player though, anyone who calls him average or non-impactful or anything like that is just plain wrong. If the argument is he hasn't performed at top 10 pick level however then I think that is correct.  

[Bob in STL]

10 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I think he's done pretty well...

 

Not sure what people expected

Some People expect a pro bowl difference maker because of his draft position.  Unrealistic but true. 

Edited November 1, 2021 by Bob in STL

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

Finally someone on the bills staff said Hey!! This guy is not Pat Williams, he is in the mold of a John Randle, gets throw the gaps with speed and causing guards and centers to be uncomfortable because of his speed off the ball and I believe was a key reason the bills won yesterday because of Ed quickness off the ball caused the dolphins to fumble right before the half.

[Not at the table Karlos]

8 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

Finally someone on the bills staff said Hey!! This guy is not Pat Williams, he is in the mold of a John Randle, gets throw the gaps with speed and causing guards and centers to be uncomfortable because of his speed off the ball and I believe was a key reason the bills won yesterday because of Ed quickness off the ball caused the dolphins to fumble right before the half.

He needs to shoot the gaps more often. He did that in the beginning of the game yesterday and he was dominant. He really likes to play heads up with a lineman and beat him like that instead of using his quickness and power to just blow by them and shrug them off if they get a hand on him. I think some of it is scheme/coaching tho. 

Edited November 1, 2021 by Not at the table Karlos

[MAJBobby]

On 10/19/2021 at 10:02 PM, JohnNord said:

Overall, I’m a little disappointed with what we’ve seen from Ed Oliver.   Last year, some had theorized that his lack of production was the result of not having a true 1TDT to take on blockers.   Well Star is back and is having his best season with the Bills, yet Oliver still hasn’t made much more of an impact.  
 

He hasn’t been bad necessarily and can make an occasional splash play.  But he also seems to be a non-factor for long stretches of game and has provided little in terms of a pass rush.  It seems to me that he doesn’t win his matchup enough.  The word on Oliver is that you can take him out of a play completely with a double team.  
 

At this point, if I’m Brandon Beane, I definitely wouldn’t  pick up his option this off-season, unless Ed takes his game to another level this year.   I feel that you can match Oliver’s production with a younger player or a veteran that will sign for a much cheaper deal than what it would take to keep Oliver in town.  

Would you pick up Oliver’s option after this season?

 

Disruptive, he has been very good this year.