Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 Defense: Wow, Klein only 6%, Taron Johnson 94% - I would have thought they would try base D a bit more against Henry. Milano 100%, again, would have thought they'd give him breathers with the hammy Phillips and Lotulelei looks like platooning, i wonder if they got what they wanted from Phillips? Looks like Ditto for Zimmer and Oliver with probably a sprinkle of Obada. Can't tell from the snaps what they did at end, but it almost looks like Addison-Rousseau and Hughes-Obada If so, I kind of feel like they outsmarted themselves vs. the "good thing" they had going on last week. Offense Gonna guess the predominant set here was (1,1) 1 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I agree, should have used Klein more. A base D would have been better against Tenn, IMO. Klein presents the ability to blitz and/or provide a heavier guy against the run. Edited October 19, 2021 by RyanC883 1 Quote
FlaFitz1 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) What I don't understand is the use of Moss over Motor. In the five games they both played Motor has been the overall more effective only to typically get fewer carries and snaps. Against Miami Moss had 8 carries and averaged 3.3 ypc - Motor 11 carries and averaged 6.3 ypc WFT - Moss 13 with a 4.6 ypc average - Motor 11 with a 2.9 ypc avg Houston - Moss 14 with a 4.4 avg - Motor 14 with a 5.6 avg KC - Moss 11 for an avg of 3.4 ypc - Motor 6 for an avg of 4.2 Titans - Moss 8 with a 3 ypc avg - Motor 5 totes and a 5.4 avg Over those 5 games thats Moss with 54 carries and an average of 3.9 while motor has 49 and averages 4.4 ypc Snap Counts over those 5 games? Moss 18, 44, 46, 42 and 42 for a total of 192 - Motor 43, 34, 32, 19 and 35 for a total of 163 Shouldn't those snap counts be at least reveresed? I don't understand what happened to "going with the hot hand" as the coaches stated they would. A couple side notes: Moss has exactly one carry over 10 yards Motor has caught 13 of his 18 targets - 72.2% Moss has caught 10 of his 14 targets - 71.4% Edited October 19, 2021 by FlaFitz1 1 1 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 Obada played last night?? I didn't notice. 2 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said: What I don't understand is the use of Moss over Motor. In the five games they both played Motor has been the overall more effective yet only to typically fewer carries and snaps. Against Miami Moss had 8 carries and averaged 3.3 ypc - Motor 11 carries and averaged 6.3 ypc WFT - Moss 13 with a 4.6 ypc average - Motor 11 with a 2.9 ypc avg Houston - Moss 14 with a 4.4 avg - Motor 14 with a 5.6 avg KC - Moss 11 for an avg of 3.4 ypc - Motor 6 for an avg of 4.2 Titans - Moss 8 with a 3 ypc avg - Motor 5 totes and a 5.4 avg Over those 5 games thats Moss with 54 carries and an average of 3.9 while motor has 49 and averages 4.4 ypc Snap Counts over those 5 games? Moss 18, 44, 46, 42 and 42 for a total of 192 - Motor 43, 34, 32, 19 and 35 for a total of 163 Shouldn't those snap counts be at least reveresed? I don't understand what happened to "going with the hot hand" as the coaches stated they would. A couple side notes: Moss has exactly one carry over 10 yards Motor has caught 13 of his 18 targets - 72.2% Moss has caught 10 of his 14 targets - 71.4% Motor is the better RB by a smidgen, hence winning the starter spot. But you're nitpicking here. It's always going to be a committee approach. "Play the hot hand" is just a cliche in this case, I think. Quote
ngbills Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 Milano was the least impactful I have seen in some time for playing every snap. Quote
FireChans Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Defense: Wow, Klein only 6%, Taron Johnson 94% - I would have thought they would try base D a bit more against Henry. Milano 100%, again, would have thought they'd give him breathers with the hammy Phillips and Lotulelei looks like platooning, i wonder if they got what they wanted from Phillips? Looks like Ditto for Zimmer and Oliver with probably a sprinkle of Obada. Can't tell from the snaps what they did at end, but it almost looks like Addison-Rousseau and Hughes-Obada If so, I kind of feel like they outsmarted themselves vs. the "good thing" they had going on last week. Offense Gonna guess the predominant set here was (1,1) No Klein because he is an absolute liability in PA. TJ is a solid tackler. Makes sense to me Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said: What I don't understand is the use of Moss over Motor. In the five games they both played Motor has been the overall more effective only to typically get fewer carries and snaps. Against Miami Moss had 8 carries and averaged 3.3 ypc - Motor 11 carries and averaged 6.3 ypc WFT - Moss 13 with a 4.6 ypc average - Motor 11 with a 2.9 ypc avg Houston - Moss 14 with a 4.4 avg - Motor 14 with a 5.6 avg KC - Moss 11 for an avg of 3.4 ypc - Motor 6 for an avg of 4.2 Titans - Moss 8 with a 3 ypc avg - Motor 5 totes and a 5.4 avg Over those 5 games thats Moss with 54 carries and an average of 3.9 while motor has 49 and averages 4.4 ypc Snap Counts over those 5 games? Moss 18, 44, 46, 42 and 42 for a total of 192 - Motor 43, 34, 32, 19 and 35 for a total of 163 Shouldn't those snap counts be at least reveresed? I don't understand what happened to "going with the hot hand" as the coaches stated they would. A couple side notes: Moss has exactly one carry over 10 yards Motor has caught 13 of his 18 targets - 72.2% Moss has caught 10 of his 14 targets - 71.4% Don't confuse me with facts! Quote
tylerbillsfan33 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Defense: Wow, Klein only 6%, Taron Johnson 94% - I would have thought they would try base D a bit more against Henry. Milano 100%, again, would have thought they'd give him breathers with the hammy Phillips and Lotulelei looks like platooning, i wonder if they got what they wanted from Phillips? Looks like Ditto for Zimmer and Oliver with probably a sprinkle of Obada. Can't tell from the snaps what they did at end, but it almost looks like Addison-Rousseau and Hughes-Obada If so, I kind of feel like they outsmarted themselves vs. the "good thing" they had going on last week. Offense Gonna guess the predominant set here was (1,1) What are snap counts? I was just wondering. Quote
DJB Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Obada played last night?? I didn't notice. I only noticed him when he jumped offside. (That was a marginal call anyways since the ball wasn't snapped) Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, ngbills said: Milano was the least impactful I have seen in some time for playing every snap. Yeah - he had a rough game imo. Just couldn't figure out where he needed to be Quote
Rc2catch Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Obada played last night?? I didn't notice. He didn’t have a good game against the backup LT but…. The only rush I seen from him against the RT, He was the one who got the pressure and forced the bad pass on Poyers interception imo. And after reading DJB yeah the Offside as well he was on the RT side Edited October 19, 2021 by Rc2catch Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said: What I don't understand is the use of Moss over Motor. In the five games they both played Motor has been the overall more effective only to typically get fewer carries and snaps. Against Miami Moss had 8 carries and averaged 3.3 ypc - Motor 11 carries and averaged 6.3 ypc WFT - Moss 13 with a 4.6 ypc average - Motor 11 with a 2.9 ypc avg Houston - Moss 14 with a 4.4 avg - Motor 14 with a 5.6 avg KC - Moss 11 for an avg of 3.4 ypc - Motor 6 for an avg of 4.2 Titans - Moss 8 with a 3 ypc avg - Motor 5 totes and a 5.4 avg Over those 5 games thats Moss with 54 carries and an average of 3.9 while motor has 49 and averages 4.4 ypc Snap Counts over those 5 games? Moss 18, 44, 46, 42 and 42 for a total of 192 - Motor 43, 34, 32, 19 and 35 for a total of 163 Shouldn't those snap counts be at least reveresed? I don't understand what happened to "going with the hot hand" as the coaches stated they would. A couple side notes: Moss has exactly one carry over 10 yards Motor has caught 13 of his 18 targets - 72.2% Moss has caught 10 of his 14 targets - 71.4% They did the opposite of "going with the hot hand". Singletary had a few nice runs early where he broke some tackles and gained a lot of extra yards. He was rewarded with 2 touches in the 2nd half. Moss had a fumble (out of bounds). Not going to blame Moss for the INT, but with a better reaction he could've at least tried to break up the catch. Quote
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