Allen QB sneak success rate

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Anybody know what his career success rate is? I'm not sure how to find that information but I'm willing to bet the analysis of the situation and previous success rate dictated the decision to go for it. 

[What a Tuel]

I dont know it but at any rate, I say you 100% go for it every time. Why take the risk we don't get the OT coin toss? Or if we do then we have to drive all the way back down to just be in the same position. I wish we could have that qb sneak back and actually block.

[Jerome007]

Often times, the Bills have used trick plays instead of sneaks... and well the OL is not that great at pushing people back. Still, I'm sure they get this at least 85% of the time. And IMO Josh "didn't slip" on his own, he ran into the opposing DL that wasn't blocked well enough! 

[Bangarang]

60% of the time it works every time 

[NoSaint]

I think someone posted 13/14 last night on similar situations with the one miss being a snap issue

 

no idea if accurate but it was shared

[fasteddie]

I have yet to figure out how offensive linemen who outweigh their opponents by 30 or 40 pounds continually get pushed back on running plays. Either the strength coaches need to do their jobs, or the line coaches need to look for another job. I'm thinking the latter. Unfortunately,  McD wouldn't think of making changes that would make sense. 

[Big Turk]

23 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Anybody know what his career success rate is? I'm not sure how to find that information but I'm willing to bet the analysis of the situation and previous success rate dictated the decision to go for it. 

 

I can't remember one he was stopped on. Maybe one other time?

2 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

I have yet to figure out how offensive linemen who outweigh their opponents by 30 or 40 pounds continually get pushed back on running plays. Either the strength coaches need to do their jobs, or the line coaches need to look for another job. I'm thinking the latter. Unfortunately,  McD wouldn't think of making changes that would make sense. 

 

Leverage. He who gets lower wins.

[NoSaint]

18 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Often times, the Bills have used trick plays instead of sneaks... and well the OL is not that great at pushing people back. Still, I'm sure they get this at least 85% of the time. And IMO Josh "didn't slip" on his own, he ran into the opposing DL that wasn't blocked well enough! 

said it in other threads but not sure how our scheme had mongo pushing right and then what appeared to be dawkins blocking a guy shading inside of him. And then josh going head to head with the most likely path he’d crash into without a bills jersey between them.

 

will be curious to see a reply today less frustrated but still think we may have flubbed some assignments unless he really shockingly fast got off on the snap or dawkins was sleeping 

 

But it seemed like weird handoffs of assignments were happening with mongo at times earlier in the game 

Edited October 19, 2021 by NoSaint

[Stank_Nasty]

25 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Anybody know what his career success rate is? I'm not sure how to find that information but I'm willing to bet the analysis of the situation and previous success rate dictated the decision to go for it. 

He was 13 for 14 on 4th and 1 sneaks going into last night. The only one he didn’t get was a muffed snap in the opener of 2019. 
 

Flukey deal last night. That play is about as automatic for Allen as there is in all of sports 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

He was 13 for 14 on 4th and 1 sneaks going into last night. The only one he didn’t get was a muffed snap in the opener of 2019. 
 

Flukey deal last night. That play is about as automatic for Allen as there is in all of sports 

 

0-2 last night.  Should be automatic.  OL was abused all night last night and really was just flat-out embarrassing.  

[DasNootz]

I agree it was the right call to go for it.  Don't let the bad outcome cloud the decision making process.  If you go to OT you're a coinflip to win.  A QB sneak has well over a 50% success rate.

 

The only  things I would have done differently is not lined up in the shotgun first and had your FB in for the push. 

Edited October 19, 2021 by DasNootz

[Back2Buff]

They called the play the defense was expecting.  Thats fine on any other play, than the last play of game.  You can't be predictable in a situation when your line is getting abused all night.  It was a terrible call.

[mannc]

31 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Anybody know what his career success rate is? I'm not sure how to find that information but I'm willing to bet the analysis of the situation and previous success rate dictated the decision to go for it. 

Should not have called for a sneak. We needed a play that had a chance to result in a TD, not just a first down with only 20 seconds left.  Brain fart by Daboll/McDermott. Going for it absolutely the right call though.

[Not at the table Karlos]

If he just went straight forward he would have had it. Left side of the line got blown up and that's where he wanted to go. 

 

It shouldn't have came down to that. We should have been up by multiple scores. We didn't execute

Edited October 19, 2021 by Not at the table Karlos

[Mango]

20 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

I have yet to figure out how offensive linemen who outweigh their opponents by 30 or 40 pounds continually get pushed back on running plays. Either the strength coaches need to do their jobs, or the line coaches need to look for another job. I'm thinking the latter. Unfortunately,  McD wouldn't think of making changes that would make sense. 

 

I think it is a FO issue not a coaching problem. 

[Stank_Nasty]

20 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

0-2 last night.  Should be automatic.  OL was abused all night last night and really was just flat-out embarrassing.  

0-2? Am I forgetting the other one? 

16 minutes ago, mannc said:

Should not have called for a sneak. We needed a play that had a chance to result in a TD, not just a first down with only 20 seconds left.  Brain fart by Daboll/McDermott. Going for it absolutely the right call though.

Still had a T.O. Call was fine. 

[BuffaloFan68]

Next time we go up & over!

Go Bills!!!!!

[Gugny]

52 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Anybody know what his career success rate is? I'm not sure how to find that information but I'm willing to bet the analysis of the situation and previous success rate dictated the decision to go for it. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl/allen-bills-come-up-short-as-buffalo-coach-goes-for-win/2021/10/19/9585040e-309b-11ec-8036-7db255bff176_story.html

 

"But Allen had converted an NFL-best 24 quarterback sneaks for first downs since 2018"

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl/allen-bills-come-up-short-as-buffalo-coach-goes-for-win/2021/10/19/9585040e-309b-11ec-8036-7db255bff176_story.html

 

"But Allen had converted an NFL-best 24 quarterback sneaks for first downs since 2018"

Flukey play against an awful defense…. Blind squirrel finding a nut