Josh Allen 2022 season verdict... OC & DC let him down: 64.5% comp %, 51 TDs, 18 TOs, 97.9 Passer Rating, 313 YPG (offseason assessments page 46 on)

[JGMcD2]

32 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

Finshed with a completion percentage below 65%.

 

Too many TO's, not enough passing yards.

 

Could not pull out ANY of the close games, not clutch enough.

 

Overall didn't regress as much as I expected.

 

Rodgers gets MVP because he's the only top QB who wasn't a TO machine.

 

 

Completion percentage... I wanted to stop reading there.

I wish I did 🤦‍♂️

[teef]

34 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

He's older since the last time you chatted with him.....means he probably got more negative.  

age is not just a number for gene...it's also a level of anger.

[Magox]

8 hours ago, FireChans said:

Because attempts is directly correlated to games played? 
 

Does Josh Allen have more rushing yards since week 13 than Nick Chubb if they played the same amount of games? No. Dumb stat.

You are stuck in the bushes worrying about the minutiae of the stat itself.

 

Forget about the headline, the point is that this two-headed monster of Singletary and Allen have been one of the best and most effective running attacks since their newfound ground game.  They are getting lots of yards, converting short third downs, have a high yard pc and getting into the end zone at a ridiculously high rate and it’s largely because of the ground game.   
 

This is a big reason why Buffalo is looking so dangerous.
 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

Anyone else view this as a squandered season? I get it... I was happy to be in the playoffs... but I think we're beyond that point.

 

I absolutely cannot forgive Daboll for some of his playcalling, even if he believes he's doing it to set up plays like that 75 yarder to Davis. Handing the ball off 3 times in a row and then punting against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in a game where each team only completed one possession by the end of the 1st quarter is unacceptable.

 

I know the grass isn't always greener on the other side, but I hope Daboll and Frazier get HC jobs. I believe they're the ones most responsible for squandering a year we coulda/shoulda/woulda won a Lombardi.

 

And our Winter Soldier is another year older next season.

[transplantbillsfan]

 

 

[Scott7975]

***** this was our year.  We had the game in the bag.  Josh Allen was the best player on the field and with 13 seconds we ***** lose.  There is no excuse for the defensive play calling.  Its all on the coaches.  As much as I dislike Daboll, this was completely on whoever called that D on the last 2 drives and OT.  Can't stop the Chiefs like they couldn't stop us but 13 seconds should be game over for anyone.

 

I firmly believe Josh Allen will bring this city a Super Bowl but it should have been this year.  This hurts way more than last year.  Frazier needs to see the door and McDermott/Beane need to rethink this 8 man rotation.  Spend the money on a playmaker not 8 guys resting their legs.

Edited January 24, 2022 by Scott7975

[Aussie Joe]

He was so close to MVP

[transplantbillsfan]

44 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

***** this was our year.  We had the game in the bag.  Josh Allen was the best player on the field and with 13 seconds we ***** lose.  There is no excuse for the defensive play calling.  Its all on the coaches.  As much as I dislike Daboll, this was completely on whoever called that D on the last 2 drives and OT.  Can't stop the Chiefs like they couldn't stop us but 13 seconds should be game over for anyone.

 

I firmly believe Josh Allen will bring this city a Super Bowl but it should have been this year.  This hurts way more than last year.  Frazier needs to see the door and McDermott/Beane need to rethink this 8 man rotation.  Spend the money on a playmaker not 8 guys resting their legs.

 

I feel the same way. Feels like a wasted season even though out future still looks so bright.

 

I still firmly believe Allen gets Buffalo multiple Super Bowls, not just one. But with the way he's been playing, this year probably should have been his first.

[Scott7975]

31 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

The offense needs to become more consistent. One good sign is that Allen stepped it up bigtime in this years playoff's compared to last years.

 

However, it seems like the Bills have a coaching staff that will waste Allens' prime years and the owners are clueless to do anything about it before it's too late.

 

Ive always felt Allen was good.  Last year I felt like he was MVP.  This year in the post season and even some games in the regular season I felt like it clicked in Allen and he just made the next level.  Like a level beyond the level.  Like one of the best this league has ever seen level.

 

Ive had about 4 hours sleep and I'm still not over this 13 seconds defensive collapse *****.  However, I feel like I just watched the super bowl and I don't think I have ever seen a better offensive game in my life and I have been watching for 40 years.  

 

Allen was the best player on the field.  Yeah yeah Mahomes won them the game in 13 seconds in the worlds view but in my view he didn't.  McDermott/Frazier won KC that game.  Mahomes just made a couple easy pitch and catch passes to wide open guys that ran all over the field. Ive never seen a 13 second collapse like that.  When your QB gives you the go ahead score for the second time in the game and this time with only 13 seconds left, you don't let that dude down like that.

 

This team needs to replace Beasley next year with a guy that can get some YAC.  That is the dimension our offense lacks.  Half of Mahomes passing yards are from YAC.  Almost all of Allens passing yards are air yards.  Its a huge ***** difference.  I like Beasley and it has nothing to do with the covid *****.  I couldn't care less about his choice.  He has lost a step.  Need a burner that can do better.

[UKBillFan]

Overall, I’d say the regular season for Josh personally was good but not good enough. In the play offs he was lights out.

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[WNYFAN1]

On 1/24/2022 at 7:08 AM, UKBillFan said:

Overall, I’d say the regular season for Josh personally was good but not good enough. In the play offs he was lights out.

Agreed. He took a step back in the 2021 regular season relative to 2020. But excellent in the two playoff games.

[Warcodered]

 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

19 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said:

Agreed. He took a step back in the 2021 regular season relative to 2020. But excellent in the two playoff games.

 

When it mattered most.

[Warcodered]

 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Just another metric that shows Allen had a tremendous season and not a “ step back”. His numbers were excellent and while the Bills offense as a whole was different ( it had to be given what teams were doing to defend it) Allen adjusted and found other ways to beat defenses. He may have been even more valuable this year than last. Anyway, Allen has reached a place where he doesn’t take “ steps back” any more than Mahomes did in weeks 1-7. Elite QBs can still  have a rough patch where they might not play to their own standard but a term like step back is to imply that he hasn’t reached elite status and might never do so. Pretty sure that notion has been debunked. 

[RaoulDuke79]

#17 is the best player the Bills have had in a long while and possibly ever. Time will tell. It's a damn travesty to see how he he put his body and everything else he had on the line to bring the team back twice, only to have the defense and coaching staff piss it away. I'm still seething. Baring injury, I never felt so bad for a player. 

[CincyBillsFan]

58 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Just another metric that shows Allen had a tremendous season and not a “ step back”. His numbers were excellent and while the Bills offense as a whole was different ( it had to be given what teams were doing to defend it) Allen adjusted and found other ways to beat defenses. He may have been even more valuable this year than last. Anyway, Allen has reached a place where he doesn’t take “ steps back” any more than Mahomes did in weeks 1-7. Elite QBs can still  have a rough patch where they might not play to their own standard but a term like step back is to imply that he hasn’t reached elite status and might never do so. Pretty sure that notion has been debunked. 

I agree.  The talk that Allen took a step back this season is nonsense.  You could point to the much worse weather conditions he played in this year as the main reason for the slight drop in his numbers.  And in the three most important games of the season: 2nd NE game and the NE & KC playoff games, Allen was spectacular.  Those high pressure, big time game performances demonstrated to me that Allen actually played better this season then last season - especially when it counted most.

 

 

[WNYFAN1]

13 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I agree.  The talk that Allen took a step back this season is nonsense.  You could point to the much worse weather conditions he played in this year as the main reason for the slight drop in his numbers.  And in the three most important games of the season: 2nd NE game and the NE & KC playoff games, Allen was spectacular.  Those high pressure, big time game performances demonstrated to me that Allen actually played better this season then last season - especially when it counted most.

 

 

Disagree. During the entirety of the regular season it was absolutely a step back compared with the 2020 regular season. He was a legit MVP candidate in 2020 and received votes. He dropped off in nearly every metric in 2021 and, unsurprisingly, the Bills regular season record was significantly worse than 2020.

 

2020 - 4,544 yrds, 7.9avg, 69.2% completion, 37 td, 10 int, 76.6 QBR, 107.2 RT

 

2021- 4,407 yrds, 6.8avg, 63.3% completion, 36 td, 15 int, 60.6 QBR, 92.2 RT

 

The numbers don't lie.

 

Amazing postseason performance and something to build on. That being said, a better regular season performance (obviously not just him), and this team is home for the entirety of the playoffs.

[cisco2403]

9 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said:

Disagree. During the entirety of the regular season it was absolutely a step back compared with the 2020 regular season. He was a legit MVP candidate in 2020 and received votes. He dropped off in nearly every metric in 2021 and, unsurprisingly, the Bills regular season record was significantly worse than 2020.

 

2020 - 4,544 yrds, 7.9avg, 69.2% completion, 37 td, 10 int, 76.6 QBR, 107.2 RT

 

2021- 4,407 yrds, 6.8avg, 63.3% completion, 36 td, 15 int, 60.6 QBR, 92.2 RT

 

The numbers don't lie.

 

Amazing postseason performance and something to build on. That being said, a better regular season performance (obviously not just him), and this team is home for the entirety of the playoffs.

You are only looking at numbers but not looking at the context behind those numbers. The numbers may show that Josh took a step back but IMO he actually didn't. He played in multiple bad weather/windy games and the offensive live was not nearly as good in 2021 as it was in 2020. 

 

Josh's postseason was not just amazing, it was one for the ages. Its an extreme shame that he isn't playing this weekend to go to the Super Bowl. I think something clicked even more for Josh in the playoffs and we are seeing him playing at even a higher level. Next season, the NFL may see something from Josh that they won't be prepared for.