GunnerBill Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Anyone else wonder why we bother running the ball sometimes? Solid game by Josh. It seemed clear our OL was a lesser version of itself without Brown at RT. Sloppy 1st half but the team looked much stronger in the 2nd. Love the focus on getting Beasley the ball. Anyone else impressed that for what appeared to be an average game for Allen still had him with over 300 total yards, 3 TDs and 0 turnovers? I was impressed that what I would have called overall an average game for Josh was again a match winning performance because he makes great plays even when he isn't playing great if that makes sense? The two touchdown passes were both exceptional for different reasons. 1 2 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Anyone else wonder why we bother running the ball sometimes? Solid game by Josh. It seemed clear our OL was a lesser version of itself without Brown at RT. Sloppy 1st half but the team looked much stronger in the 2nd. Love the focus on getting Beasley the ball. Anyone else impressed that for what appeared to be an average game for Allen still had him with over 300 total yards, 3 TDs and 0 turnovers? I think that was an above average game by Allen again…we played some nice complimentary football for a few weeks but we’re back to the josh Allen carrying the offensive unit show lol 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I really don't think he's in the MVP race at this point in time. Will need to finish the season out as the best QB in the league to get it, and that doesn't seem too likely. He’s probably back to being pretty close to the betting favorite again imo…remember we’re a game behind a lot of teams if you’re just looking at stat sheets. He just has too many outrageous highlights to not be in the conversation. By definition he is the mvp in my eyes…our offensive line has been dreadful most of the season. Someone like dak has a stout oline and a running game to support him. The bills offense has been the josh does everything show Edited October 31, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Individual accolades are great, but I just rather he play at an MVP level. Considering how poor the offensive line was today, his performance is even more noteworthy. 2 Quote
GoBills808 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 It’s hard to overstate how much he’s able to do with how poorly the offensive line performs 2 2 Quote
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: So many fans were happy the Bills brought back those O-linemen in the offseason, I was hoping for upgrades... I was happy they brought back Daryl Williams and kept Morse. Wasn’t so enthused about keeping Feliciano/not doing anything at OG. 2 Quote
Saxum Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 58 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Anyone else wonder why we bother running the ball sometimes? Solid game by Josh. It seemed clear our OL was a lesser version of itself without Brown at RT. Sloppy 1st half but the team looked much stronger in the 2nd. Love the focus on getting Beasley the ball. Anyone else impressed that for what appeared to be an average game for Allen still had him with over 300 total yards, 3 TDs and 0 turnovers? Focusing on Beasley and other players made sense with Miami Sharks having 2 very good CBs. 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 54 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I really don't think he's in the MVP race at this point in time. Will need to finish the season out as the best QB in the league to get it, and that doesn't seem too likely. He was 2nd in votes last year. He's doing the same stuff this year. He is the offense for one of the best teams in the league. He is absolutely in the race. 2 Quote
BruceVilanch Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: He was 2nd in votes last year. He's doing the same stuff this year. He is the offense for one of the best teams in the league. He is absolutely in the race. It's Gene, just leave him with his dumb thoughts. 2 2 2 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It’s hard to overstate how much he’s able to do with how poorly the offensive line performs Exactly…these were the type of games we were losing by 20 last year Quote
JoPoy88 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Josh is playing fine. I think he’s one of the best QBs in the league. But if they voted for MVP today, he wouldn’t finish in the top three. Not saying that’s right, it just is what it is. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: He's not doing what he did last year, also there are more QB's doing more than him this year as opposed to last. He will need to go crazy as the season closes to win it. The Bills O-line probably isn't up to the task for this to happen. How does the bills oline have anything to do with josh being mvp…it’s not a ‘who has the best stats’ award. In fact josh being successful with a travesty of an offensive line improves his case. He’s been better than last year Not to mention two of the competing guys Herbert and Brady have looked very mediocre today Edited October 31, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
thenorthremembers Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Best statistical QB or not, the guy is the most valuable player to his team. He makes up for the lack of O-Line, and lack of run game big time. The guy literally wills the team a long. 1 Quote
Dukestreetking Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 I'll eschew MVP comments for moment (too early). But: QB TTD-TO ratios are, generally speaking, way underrated; imo, due to fantasy dominance/interest. Now, look at JA: 20/4. Per statsmuse, 0.57/game this year; rookie year 1.17, last year 1.0. And, btw, only 8 sacks, behind an avg at best OL. Bottom line: this is ridiculous improvement AND top tier performance. Esp in light of his offensive burden, and the supposed last knock on him (ball security). I would never have imagined this 5 yrs ago. I don't know about MVP this minute, but he'll win multiple SBs/MVPs during his career. 4 2 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: It's not supposed to be, but that's usually what it is. You could be right….I like to think it’s not and the guy with the best stats just happens to be the most valuable usually but who really knows what goes through those peoples heads lol Quote
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Dukestreetking said: I'll eschew MVP comments for moment (too early). But: QB TTD-TO ratios are, generally speaking, way underrated; imo, due to fantasy dominance/interest. Now, look at JA: 20/4. Per statsmuse, 0.57/game this year; rookie year 1.17, last year 1.0. And, btw, only 8 sacks, behind an avg at best OL. Bottom line: this is ridiculous improvement AND top tier performance. Esp in light of his offensive burden, and the supposed last knock on him (ball security). I would never have imagined this 5 yrs ago. I don't know about MVP this minute, but he'll win multiple SBs/MVPs during his career. You watched him in college? Heck I wouldn’t have imagined this prior to last season. Quote
LeGOATski Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: He's not doing what he did last year, also there are more QB's doing more than him this year as opposed to last. He will need to go crazy as the season closes to win it. The Bills O-line probably isn't up to the task for this to happen. Yeah, okey dokey Through 6 games: 2021 - 64%, 17 TDs, 1723 pass yds, 214 rush yds 2020 - 66%, 19 TDs, 1711 pass yds, 143 rush yds He's doing the same things. 5 2 1 5 Quote
BBills88 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said: I'll eschew MVP comments for moment (too early). But: QB TTD-TO ratios are, generally speaking, way underrated; imo, due to fantasy dominance/interest. Now, look at JA: 20/4. Per statsmuse, 0.57/game this year; rookie year 1.17, last year 1.0. And, btw, only 8 sacks, behind an avg at best OL. Bottom line: this is ridiculous improvement AND top tier performance. Esp in light of his offensive burden, and the supposed last knock on him (ball security). I would never have imagined this 5 yrs ago. I don't know about MVP this minute, but he'll win multiple SBs/MVPs during his career. Having more SB MVP's is better than regular season MVP's. I rather Josh Allen as a Buffalo Bill have 4 - 6 Superbowl MVP trophies 1 Quote
Dukestreetking Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: You watched him in college? Heck I wouldn’t have imagined this prior to last season. I should've been more clear...I mean I couldn't have imagined this, in light of the QB play in the drought years. His high level performance is now "normalized" in my brain. 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Josh is playing fine. I think he’s one of the best QBs in the league. But if they voted for MVP today, he wouldn’t finish in the top three. Not saying that’s right, it just is what it is. Henry Brady Kupp Murray Allen Top 5 Edited October 31, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Quote
Hebert19 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Honestly as of right now he Henry and Brady are only choices. Pass on the Stafford or Murray discussion. 1 Quote
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