Josh Allen 2022 season verdict... OC & DC let him down: 64.5% comp %, 51 TDs, 18 TOs, 97.9 Passer Rating, 313 YPG (offseason assessments page 46 on)

[Doc]

The MVP is now Rodgers’. 

[PetermansRedemption]

Tonight should drop Brady right out of the rankings. 

[transplantbillsfan]

Hey @Gene1973 ... is Josh still out of it with 6 losses? 

 

With this absolutely atrocious game by Brady tonight it seems this race will come down to 4 players:

 

Josh Allen 

Jonathan Taylor 

Aaron Rodgers 

Tom Brady 

 

Taylor is deserving... but a RB... really...?

 

And truthfully the 3 QBs are neck and neck. 

 

Sorry bro... as much as you hate it, Josh Allen is still one of the frontrunners 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

Diggs also joins Stevie Johnson for consecutive 1000 yards receiving season.

 

Andre Reed never had 2+ in a row? Crazy.

[Dr.Sack]

Not too interested in this award outside of Allen using this to fuel his quest to improve and for use as a motivation tool. 
 

Allen fits somewhere in the top 10. 
 

For Allen to move up he needs to finish the season by winning out. 

[TheFunPolice]

This should be the year a non QB wins MVP..

 

 

Kupp or Taylor

[Gugny]

53 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

Andre Reed never had 2+ in a row? Crazy.

 

That's why he had to beg his way into Canton.

[Fan in Chicago]

6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

The best development to me today is a relevant running game with Singletary. The 2nd best development is the continuing development of Gabriel Davis.

 

We still needed heroics from Allen today, but he didn't quite need to carry the team like normal.

 

The reality here for doubters is that if we beat the Patriots next week and Allen plays really well, he's probably in a very tight 2 or 3 way race for the MVP to finish the season.

 

But obviously all of us would prefer SB MVP over regular season MVP... so let's hope this team just found a little more identity running the football.

 

The look on Gilmore's face was priceless

[Saxum]

4 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

 

SJ13 had 3 consecutive seasons....not bad for a 7th round pick playing with JAG QB's

 

Fitzpatrick was more than a JAG but some cannot see that.  Not top 10 but what some teams need when QB has to put everything on line for team to have any success.  He and Stevie connected for both were backups practicing with each other and both were very intelligent with Fitzpatrick understanding how Stevie saw field and adjusted route to be at points on route where Fitzpatrick would know he would be without throwing precise routes.  Wish they had better supporting players.

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Andre Reed never had 2+ in a row? Crazy.

 

Andre Reed did a lot of dirty work and this cost him a lot of yards.

[MJS]

48 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The look on Gilmore's face was priceless

I just love seeing him pout.

[The Wiz]

30 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Fitzpatrick was more than a JAG but some cannot see that.  Not top 10 but what some teams need when QB has to put everything on line for team to have any success.  He and Stevie connected for both were backups practicing with each other and both were very intelligent with Fitzpatrick understanding how Stevie saw field and adjusted route to be at points on route where Fitzpatrick would know he would be without throwing precise routes.  Wish they had better supporting players.

 

Andre Reed did a lot of dirty work and this cost him a lot of yards.

I remember an SI article about Stevie and how he used his basketball skills to run routes and he and Fitz knew the timing of the route of where he was suppose to be. 

 

Both were very smart in this sense. 

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[JMF2006]

6 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Fitzpatrick was more than a JAG but some cannot see that.  Not top 10 but what some teams need when QB has to put everything on line for team to have any success.  He and Stevie connected for both were backups practicing with each other and both were very intelligent with Fitzpatrick understanding how Stevie saw field and adjusted route to be at points on route where Fitzpatrick would know he would be without throwing precise routes.  Wish they had better supporting players.

 

Andre Reed did a lot of dirty work and this cost him a lot of yards.

 

Fitzy another 7th rounder to starter on 8 or 9 teams 

 

 

[PetermansRedemption]

7 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The look on Gilmore's face was priceless

The Gilmore special. Always blame someone else. I wonder if his family was able to watch this one 🤔 

Edited December 20, 2021 by PetermansRedemption

[Matt_In_NH]

Right now, I'm just not seeing Josh as an MVP candidate.  If they won against NE and TB with throws to win it that might be different.  If the Colts continue and make a run, I see JT as the MVP.  The QB's are all jumbled this year.....and I would give Rodgers the nod there for his lack of turnovers.

7 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The look on Gilmore's face was priceless

Must have been after he was looking behind him at the other defenders?

[thenorthremembers]

3 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Right now, I'm just not seeing Josh as an MVP candidate.  If they won against NE and TB with throws to win it that might be different.  If the Colts continue and make a run, I see JT as the MVP.  The QB's are all jumbled this year.....and I would give Rodgers the nod there for his lack of turnovers.

I agree.   I havent checked the exact stats, but it seems like interceptions are way up.   If you look at the top 5 QBs in terms of passing TDs they all have double digit INTs.  That hasnt happened since 2013.     I think you're seeing that defenses have adjusted to offenses throwing the ball so much, lots of nickel, and smart offenses have started running the ball more.     May be seeing the decline of the throw first offense.

 

Right now my vote would be for Taylor.  Guy, along with his offensive line, won the Pats game.   Wentz was tragic.   A few years back I couldnt imagine a team winning a football game where their QB threw for less than 80 yards.

[YoloinOhio]

Josh threw 4 TDs against them 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, mattynh said:

Right now, I'm just not seeing Josh as an MVP candidate.  If they won against NE and TB with throws to win it that might be different.  If the Colts continue and make a run, I see JT as the MVP.  The QB's are all jumbled this year.....and I would give Rodgers the nod there for his lack of turnovers.

Must have been after he was looking behind him at the other defenders?

 

Considering he has a bad OL and no running game, he's an MVP candidate for sure.

[ToGoGo]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Josh threw 4 TDs against them 

 

The NFL media machine is so week-to-week that they might be diagnosed with retrograde amnesia. 

[Warcodered]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Josh threw 4 TDs against them