Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Rodgers has a better record, less turnovers and wins games without his best talent. He's as efficient a QB as they come. I’ve seen him play quite a few games and he just doesn’t jump off the screen like josh Allen does even to fans of other teams. Although I guess you can’t hold it against rodgers that his team could pass block most of the year lol I don’t think anyone in the league can do what Allen has done this season but mvp might be a statistical only award. Two games against weak defenses for Allen and if he wins both and we win the division maybe he pulls closer Edited December 29, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Rodgers has a better record, less turnovers and wins games without his best talent. He's as efficient a QB as they come. No Mahomes in there anywhere? Or Brady? Allen has been better IMO than Mahomes and Brady overall Quote
The Wiz Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) I like the new narrative from the talking heads about Josh. Before he was inaccurate, now he's a rollercoaster. Must just be looking at the stat line and not the offensive line. Edited December 29, 2021 by The Wiz 1 Quote
1ManRaid Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 7:17 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: If the bills offense can ever figure out how to consistently dink and dunk the ball they will be unstoppable. Josh Allen will win four or five MVPs. Those dump offs to Singleterry in the first half it seemed in particular were a thing of beauty. I'm glad they figured it out, because in past games passes to Devin kept getting stopped for a loss because he'd get the ball to him with Devin flat-footed. Other teams would get those plays off with the RB already having momentum to beat defenders to the line/around the corner. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Allen has been better IMO than Mahomes and Brady overall Allen has been an absolute stud, but the 9-6 record and loss to the Jags isn't doing him any favors. Mahomes and Rodgers have their teams as #1 seeds. That stuff matters. Quote
1ManRaid Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/27/2021 at 6:38 PM, YoloinOhio said: One off the TD lead, and a handful of yards off the yards lead. Not bad for a non Pro Bowler who had a game lost to a windstorm and two to heavy rain. Quote
njbuff Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 The Bills can win the SB this year and Allen is basically the reason the Bills can do it. But this team has lacked focus all year. Hopefully that all changes with what happened in the second half in Tampa. Quote
H2o Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 To me, my POV probably a bit skewed as a Bills fan, Josh Allen IS the MVP right now. Show me a team that is more dependent on their QB than the Buffalo Bills. He is basically the entire offense with our lack of a true running game. Week in and week out the game is on his shoulders. Without him we are at best a 4 or 5 win team right now. If Josh gets it done the next two weeks, keeping the same pace, and leading us to the division title, then there's no reason he shouldn't get the award. Will he? Probably not because the media and sports journalists still drool over Mahomes, Rodgers, everyone flashing this year except Allen, but he should. Another guy I would agree is deserving though is Jonathan Taylor. He is the major reason the Colts are back in it. Quote
ganesh Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Rodgers has a better record, less turnovers and wins games without his best talent. He's as efficient a QB as they come. No Mahomes in there anywhere? Or Brady? But that doesn't make you MVP. You take Rodgers out - What will be their record....You take Allen out - I think the Bills will win 5 games. 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, ganesh said: But that doesn't make you MVP. You take Rodgers out - What will be their record....You take Allen out - I think the Bills will win 5 games. It absolutely makes you MVP. Did you see GB without Rodgers this year? They'd be lucky to win 5 games. Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: It absolutely makes you MVP. Did you see GB without Rodgers this year? They'd be lucky to win 5 games. The one score loss at KC you mean? 2 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 32 minutes ago, ganesh said: But that doesn't make you MVP. You take Rodgers out - What will be their record....You take Allen out - I think the Bills will win 5 games. You think we win 5 games without Allen? I think it’s less 😂 every time I see rodgers he’s getting great protection and making an easy pitch and catch. Doesn’t mean he can’t do more if he’s asked to though of course. I’m also pretty salty he missed a comically wide open Lazard in the end zone a couple weeks ago that almost cost me the fantasy football playoffs lol so maybe I’m biased Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: +1200…ridiculous. Idk why rodgers is so far ahead 1. wins 2. efficiency I guarantee Allen would be the favorite by far if the bills were sitting on only four losses and leading the AFC conference. Win loss record and having the number one seed in your respective conference is the largest factor in MVP for quarterbacks. Secondary is the stats which can be broken down to favor whatever argument you want to make. Rogers is always the efficiency king. So he always has that in his back pocket. But, Allen having a legit shot to lead the league in both total touchdowns and total yards this year? I don’t think that should be overlooked. And now that the bills are at least on pace to win the AFC East again. I do think he has a shot. He probably needs to finish the season with eight touchdowns over the next two games. Certainly not impossible for Allen. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, ganesh said: But that doesn't make you MVP. You take Rodgers out - What will be their record....You take Allen out - I think the Bills will win 5 games. Historically, the #1 seed and wins are exactly what makes a QB the MVP. Allen is deserving but he has an uphill better. He needs to finish with 8+ TD’s over two games. He’s got a chance. Quote
harryS Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 Right, the MVP is heavily tied to team success, right or wrong. (This is true in all the major sports). Rodgers is the heavy, heavy favorite. But who cares? What matters is that Josh has lifted his game at the right time and was brilliant against New England. This gives the Bills a shot in the playoffs. Quote
FireChans Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 36 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Historically, the #1 seed and wins are exactly what makes a QB the MVP. Allen is deserving but he has an uphill better. He needs to finish with 8+ TD’s over two games. He’s got a chance. I don’t want Josh Allen to win the MVP. The MVP is cursed to not win the Super Bowl. It is known. 1 1 Quote
SCBills Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Ref throws the flag on the Diggs interference in Tampa Bay and Allen is the MVP frontrunner. Edited December 29, 2021 by SCBills 1 3 Quote
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