TJ Watt Slugfest

[BisonMan]

“Punching out” the ball is a key strategy for today’s NFL defenses. TJ Watt took it to another level last night. 
 

How many hands do you have to throw at a ball carrier before it’s “unsportsmanlike” or just plain assault?

 

 

Edited October 18, 2021 by BisonMan

[Warcodered]

I just want to know how he got away with wearing his brother's jersey.

Edited October 18, 2021 by Warcodered

[Bad Things]

I remember TJ doing this to Josh, on one of his scrambles last year.

He missed the ball completely and hit Josh in the gut/chest.  Josh just glared at him like WTF was that?

 

I think it should be a penalty if the defensive player misses the ball and punches the player.

Oh, and screw TJ Watt.

 

Let's go Buffalo!

 

 

[Your Brown Eye]

[JoPoy88]

9 minutes ago, BisonMan said:

“Punching out” the ball is a key strategy for today’s NFL defenses. JJ Watt took it to another level last night. 
 

How many hands do you have to throw at a ball carrier before it’s “unsportsmanlike” or just plain assault?

 

 

TJ not JJ. And if the intent is clear enough that he was going for the ball I don’t see why they would ever flag that.

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

I remember TJ doing this to Josh, on one of his scrambles last year.

He missed the ball completely and hit Josh in the gut/chest.  Josh just glared at him like WTF was that?

 

I think it should be a penalty if the defensive player misses the ball and punches the player.

Oh, and screw TJ Watt.

 

Let's go Buffalo!

 

It is a penalty. But it's also smart to try to punch the ball out. Just can't miss and hit people.

Just now, JoPoy88 said:

TJ not JJ. And if the intent is clear enough that he was going for the ball I don’t see why they would ever flag that.

If you miss bad enough and punch someone, the intent doesn't matter.

[nedboy7]

You miss the ball.... with a punch?   Ejection.

My view of him has completely gone downhill. 

Classless. 

 

Edited October 18, 2021 by nedboy7

[Doc]

He got penalized for it.  As he should have.

[BisonMan]

20 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I just want to know how he got away with wearing his brother's jersey.

Ugh. Fixed.

[JoPoy88]

10 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

If you miss bad enough and punch someone, the intent doesn't matter.

Good point - if you miss so badly you blast the guy in the head (for example), the flag is coming no matter what, as it should.

[BisonMan]

14 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

You miss the ball.... with a punch?   Ejection.

My view of him has completely gone downhill. 

Classless. 

 

Does throwing a bunch get you automatically ejected now? If so, I agree. If you miss the ball and hit the player, you’re history. He then should have been ejected.

 

By just flagging him for 15, the refs seemed to be measuring “intent”, which I don’t agree with.

Edited October 18, 2021 by BisonMan

[JoPoy88]

25 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

You miss the ball.... with a punch?   Ejection.

My view of him has completely gone downhill. 

Classless. 

 

by that standard, quite a few Bills defenders are also lacking “class” as you put it. Punching the ball out is taught by coaches all over the league. If you screw up and hit the guy in the head or something and get flagged that’s on you, but hard for me to accuse the defender of being classless. They’re trying to make a play.

[Scott7975]

41 minutes ago, BisonMan said:

“Punching out” the ball is a key strategy for today’s NFL defenses. TJ Watt took it to another level last night. 
 

How many hands do you have to throw at a ball carrier before it’s “unsportsmanlike” or just plain assault?

 

 

 

He has been doing that and getting away with it since at least last year.  Dude hit at least 3 guys in the nads last season.

[Herc11]

2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

by that standard, quite a few Bills defenders are also lacking “class” as you put it. Punching the ball out is taught by coaches all over the league. If you screw up and hit the guy in the head or something and get flagged that’s on you, but hard for me to accuse the defender of being classless. They’re trying to make a play.

Idk... I think what is typically taught is punching at the ball while tackling. Its usually a single punch while wrapping your arms on the ball carrier. TJ took it too an entire new level and wasn't even trying to tackle. It didn't even look like he had a clear shot at punching. He was just throwing haymakers there.

[Paulus]

34 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

TJ not JJ. And if the intent is clear enough that he was going for the ball I don’t see why they would ever flag that.

Are you daft? Or, being sarcastic?

 

I mean, you can't punch another player period. If you could, imagine all the abuse that would happen. Players would always be "punching the ball" and hitting the other player on accident. Watt should have been tossed.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

45 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

Ball is out!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

50 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

I remember TJ doing this to Josh, on one of his scrambles last year.

He missed the ball completely and hit Josh in the gut/chest.  Josh just glared at him like WTF was that?

 

I think it should be a penalty if the defensive player misses the ball and punches the player.

Oh, and screw TJ Watt.

 

Let's go Buffalo!

 

 

 

I was going to post this.  Not sure it was last year, might have been 2019.  I didn't even think he was going for the ball, I think he was using that as an excuse to punch Josh.

 

There's also this from 2019, where he punched Sam Darnold right in the nuts

 

IMHO they should flag him for it, he's not just going for the ball, he has a pattern of punching the players.

 

16 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

by that standard, quite a few Bills defenders are also lacking “class” as you put it. Punching the ball out is taught by coaches all over the league. If you screw up and hit the guy in the head or something and get flagged that’s on you, but hard for me to accuse the defender of being classless. They’re trying to make a play.

 

Punching the ball out is legit, and if you're really trying for the ball and miss OK, but Watt has been punching the players, not the ball.  His first hit was right into the chest.

[machine gun kelly]

57 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

I remember TJ doing this to Josh, on one of his scrambles last year.

He missed the ball completely and hit Josh in the gut/chest.  Josh just glared at him like WTF was that?

 

I think it should be a penalty if the defensive player misses the ball and punches the player.

Oh, and screw TJ Watt.

 

Let's go Buffalo!

 

 

It is a foul if the ref deems his intention was to hit the player, or if he just blatantly misses the ball.  He was over the top last night.  I get the peanut punch, but that’s regoshdarn diculous.

[JoshAllin]

38 minutes ago, BisonMan said:

Does throwing a bunch get you automatically ejected now? If so, I agree. If you miss the ball and hit the player, you’re history. He then should have been ejected.

Lets just give refs more ammo to eject a bills defensive player when he misses the ball with a swing

[Beast]

59 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

TJ not JJ. And if the intent is clear enough that he was going for the ball I don’t see why they would ever flag that.

 

I hear what you are saying and you make a valid point...but to be Devil's advocate, what if a player is legitimately trying to knock a pass down and hit the QB's facemask? 15 yards right there.

 

To me, being punched in the gut or arm doesn't feel any less painful because it was on accident. 
 

Edited October 18, 2021 by Beast