Toledo Bill Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 I noticed Kumerow was in on several offensive plays. I wonder if he was taking playing time from Beasley. Anybody have any insught? 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Toledo Bill said: I noticed Kumerow was in on several offensive plays. I wonder if he was taking playing time from Beasley. Anybody have any insught? Pretty sure they were showing him coming in as a blocking WR on running plays. They used the same formation to fool KC into thinking we would run and it reaulted in the 2nd Sanders TD catch from what I have read. Situational design. 5 Quote
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 Not sure there's any correlation between the two. I believe Kumerow's snaps are up a bit this year at WR after his really strong offseason and he's a core special teamer as always. Beasley's reduced snaps have been game plan-specific in my view (and I believe McDermott and the team have confirmed this). He had a career high 11 catches only three games ago and I'm sure we'll see some big games out of him again soon. 1 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 how many WR do we have active each game? Quote
Rc2catch Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 Gilliam probably played a season high in snaps as well on offense. They had a plan. 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 I look at him as the 3rd Te. He lines up wide or motioned in to block. He will get a deep shot very soon. Basiclly, he will get the Lee Smith treatment on a run fake and it will be 6 points. He plays teams and on an outside run give me Kumurow blocking over any of our top guys 2 Quote
Bangarang Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 The better question is how many routes he ran in the game. He seemed to be blocking more than anything else. Quote
JoPoy88 Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: how many WR do we have active each game? Gotta be 6 right? diggs - sanders - beasley - davis - mckenzie - kumerow. unless one of them has been inactive this year and missed it, I think all 6 usually dress. Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 Plus, Bills have to be ready to play without him if he can't pass protocols. I think design and having a contingency plan both play a part here. Quote
Logic Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 I kind of hate that when Kumerow comes on the field, it means run play 99% of the time. I've seen it again and again this year: Diggs and Sanders come off the field, Kumerow and Davis enter the game. Bills run the ball. If I, a dumb commoner in the stands, know that it's a run play, the opposing defense DAMNED SURE knows its a run play. Now sure, maybe they're intentionally putting it on film a bunch to set up play-action off of it down the line, but....still. If you're an opposing DC and you see Diggs come off the field and Kumerow come into the game, sell the farm to stop the run. 2 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 Someone can correct me but I believe Beasley still had the 3rd most snap count for receivers. Quote
3rdand12 Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Gilliam probably played a season high in snaps as well on offense. They had a plan. this. went in the game with 22 personnel in mind. That left Cole on the sidelines more than not. all about week to week matchups Maybe a bit like Diggs not getting much statistically pre Chiefs game. Gotsta have humble to be a Bills player these days 2 Quote
MAJBobby Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, Logic said: I kind of hate that when Kumerow comes on the field, it means run play 99% of the time. I've seen it again and again this year: Diggs and Sanders come off the field, Kumerow and Davis enter the game. Bills run the ball. If I, a dumb commoner in the stands, know that it's a run play, the opposing defense DAMNED SURE knows its a run play. Now sure, maybe they're intentionally putting it on film a bunch to set up play-action off of it down the line, but....still. If you're an opposing DC and you see Diggs come off the field and Kumerow come into the game, sell the farm to stop the run. Wait until they use the Tendency Breaker when needed. They obviously are setting it up. 2 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 It’s just a game specific matchup thing. Nothing to do with Beasley. Just like a couple of weeks ago Beasely’s number was called and had 11 targets. Just think of the opposing defenses strengths and what pegs do we put into counter. This is going to happen all year. Enjoy it. It means we are freakin deep in WR, D Line, amd Secondary vs. LB. There will be inevitably different formations every week to beat each team. We’re just not used to having this deep of a team. He’ll, we were lucky in the drought to find 22 starters. 1 2 Quote
Logic Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Wait until they use the Tendency Breaker when needed. They obviously are setting it up. Yeah, I figure as much, which I alluded to in the post. Still...Sometimes I wonder about the realistic value of running out of this predictable formation multiple times over multiple games just to set up one big "tendency breaker" play. I mean, I guess if they use it in a big spot on a big game, then great, but....I don't know. At some point I wonder at what point it becomes diminishing returns. 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Toledo Bill said: I noticed Kumerow was in on several offensive plays. I wonder if he was taking playing time from Beasley. Anybody have any insught? Several ways to check playing time: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2021.htm Click on the relevant game "boxscore" https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202110100kan.htm Scroll down About halfway down you'll see a list of Snap Counts for both teams Find your guy Or just go to the site https://www.pro-football-reference.com Type your guy's name into the search button on the upper Rt side Snap counts for this season are in the game listings at the top Kumerow had 7 snaps, or 12% of the snaps He had more snaps in the Hou and Was games, albeit possibly for different reasons (like being comfortably ahead and sitting the starters late) I think Kumerow and Sweeney both saw snaps in the Chiefs game to help with run blocking. I don't think Kumerow blocks in-line, but he's pretty good downfield and from the backfield. 1 Quote
Ta111 Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, Logic said: I kind of hate that when Kumerow comes on the field, it means run play 99% of the time. I've seen it again and again this year: Diggs and Sanders come off the field, Kumerow and Davis enter the game. Bills run the ball. If I, a dumb commoner in the stands, know that it's a run play, the opposing defense DAMNED SURE knows its a run play. Now sure, maybe they're intentionally putting it on film a bunch to set up play-action off of it down the line, but....still. If you're an opposing DC and you see Diggs come off the field and Kumerow come into the game, sell the farm to stop the run. Amazing that opposing defenses still can’t stop it. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, Logic said: Yeah, I figure as much, which I alluded to in the post. Still...Sometimes I wonder about the realistic value of running out of this predictable formation multiple times over multiple games just to set up one big "tendency breaker" play. I mean, I guess if they use it in a big spot on a big game, then great, but....I don't know. At some point I wonder at what point it becomes diminishing returns. true but my question did ANY Bills fan let alone Spags think Bills would open the game in the I? 1 Quote
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