Ayjent Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: Favorite twitter comment: I don't know who called a worse game, the refs or Collinsworth. Can we just make them co-LVPs? 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I honestly think fans think they were worse than they were. The DPI on Tre was the one horrible call but that is who this crew is. They err on the side of throwing flags. EDIT: Ethan reminds me of the Morse hold. That was non-existent as well. Bad call. Thought both RTP penalties were rule book fouls thar could have been let go. They might have called a PI on Fenton against Diggs, but I didn't mind the no call. Rousseau did get held a few times without flags but we got away with a hold on our first touchdown. Like overall KC got a couple more calls than we did but I didn't think it was more than most good teams get at home. Somehow the officiating crew turned an offensive holding call on the Chiefs to 1st and 5 rather than 1st and 20 in the red zone. That was cute. 1 1 2 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 That hold on Morse was criminal. 1 1 Quote
badassgixxer05 Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Somehow the officiating crew turned an offensive holding call on the Chiefs to 1st and 5 rather than 1st and 20 in the red zone. That was cute. I noticed that too and McD was fuming over it. Think it was a spot foul though where its 10 yards from where the hold took place which was down the field during the run. 1 1 Quote
Ayjent Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That hold on Morse was criminal. That was simply a phantom call Just now, badassgixxer05 said: I noticed that too and McD was fuming over it. Think it was a spot foul though where its 10 yards from where the hold took place which was down the field during the run. Yeah I think McD was upset about where they enforced it from because the hold took place not as far upfield - it should have been something like 1st and 12. It was beyond the LOS but not 15 yards. Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 Embarrassing ,in what should be a showcase game for the league, they called every last damn thing they could. 1 Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 5 hours ago, motorj said: Honestly, the refs had a huge opportunity to get the game close by allowing the josh pic midfield only down 24-13 but they threw a flag on a questionable roughing the passer where they could've looked the other way Wasn’t questionable, that’s the rule, can’t drive the qb into the ground, easy call… 7 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I’m a Bills fan and thankful for that roughing the passer makeup call (after the ridiculous holding penalty), but my gosh did the officials over-legislate this game. What in the heck was that NFL? Not a make up call, just a legitimate penalty… 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That hold on Morse was criminal. Just as bad as the non holding call on Hughes (or Oliver or Groot. I dont remember who it was) but you can clearly see the jersey in the chiefs Olinemans hand while he was past him. Quote
Livinginthepast Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) I am so glad that we have finally gotten to the level of quality where we can overcome the officials and their inevitable incompetence. The only way this is going to change is if the coaches get one challenge per game that is for officiating only. The game is just too fast now and trying to call penalties from a bad angle on what "appears" to be a foul is just dumb. Perhaps the officials should just stick with egregious penalties only. Edited October 11, 2021 by Livinginthepast 2 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Somehow the officiating crew turned an offensive holding call on the Chiefs to 1st and 5 rather than 1st and 20 in the red zone. That was cute. Yes! Early on I had forgotten about that. Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Somehow the officiating crew turned an offensive holding call on the Chiefs to 1st and 5 rather than 1st and 20 in the red zone. That was cute. Truth. I remember trying to work the math out in my head at the time, without success...nope, still can't. Quote
Ayjent Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: I am so glad that we have finally gotten to the level of quality where we can overcome the officials and their inevitable incompetence. The only way this is going to change is if the coaches get one challenge per game that is for officiating only. The game is just too fast now and trying to call penalties form a bad angle on what appears to be foul is just dumb. Perhaps the officials should just stick with egregious penalties only. Yeah it was especially frustrating last year as the Bills receivers were getting mauled without calls and then to see the one sided affair continuing, albeit in a different way by the officiating, in terms of calls impacting the momentum of the game in one team's favor far more than the other. In any event, you are right. When you play well enough for it not to matter that is a beautiful thing. There was no question who was the better team last night. Quote
billsbackto81 Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I thought it was fairly even (not lopsided) but frustrating with the amount of calls in total. Even would imply using the same set of standards for both teams. That was far from what took place. Sure the box will say it was fairly even but how many holding and PI calls did the Bills get in comparison to the Chiefs? Especially on 3rd and 4th downs. 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Even would imply using the same set of standards for both teams. That was far from what took place. Sure the box will say it was fairly even but how many holding and PI calls did the Bills get in comparison to the Chiefs? Especially on 3rd and 4th downs. KC had 5 first downs from penalties. Buffalo had 1. Buffalo had 2x more penalty yards called against them. Yet Chiefs fans are whining about the officiating! 3 Quote
CountDorkula Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 Officiating in the NFL is bad and getting worse, it just gets magnified in a game like this. 2 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 I forgot About this, but Travis Kelce was fined for ripping on this same Carl Cheffers crew a few years ago: "Referee No. 51 shouldn't even be able to wear a zebra jersey ever again," Kelce said, per Teicher. "He shouldn't even be able to work at !@#$ Foot Locker." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2688307-travis-kelce-fined-for-criticism-of-referee-carl-cheffers-details-and-reaction Quote
Motor26 Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 So glad they threw the unsportsmanlike flag on Poyer leveling Kelce. Looked like he was getting high fives. Also it’s a stinger, not a concussion. I wouldn’t wish a concussion on anyone. 1 Quote
JMF2006 Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: The interference calls are the ones that drive me insane. Diggs gets pulled away from the ball and crickets. Kelce pulls White with him as he's going down, with a pass that's uncatchable, and they call PI on Tre. Go back to the old days where DBs could be more physical, and make PI a 10 yard penalty instead of what they have now. The only problem with that is you would get WR's hauled down on every deep pass. Better to take the 10 or 15 yds then give up 50 or a TD Quote
Dr. Who Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Somehow the officiating crew turned an offensive holding call on the Chiefs to 1st and 5 rather than 1st and 20 in the red zone. That was cute. Thanks for bringing that up. I thought I must have missed something because it didn't make sense. Well, I guess Scott Law will explain how this is annoying fan bias and the officials were just fine or at least balanced in where they employed awful judgment. ESPN in their crawl inserts a comment about the RTP call that negated the Allen interception, btw. So, the Chiefs are victims of a bad call or its the Chiefs are bad, but how about Justin Herbert? Edited October 11, 2021 by Dr. Who Quote
FarrellsFinest Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 Mahomes gets the flag for a late hit that keeps their drive alive the announcers say NOTHING!! Allen gets the same exact call a few drives later and they go crazy crying about how it was a bad call!!! 3 Quote
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