10/10/21 Gameday SNF Bills @ Chiefs Postgame Thread

[Dan]

28 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

In other words, the roughing the passer call on Ed Oliver on a 4th down stop? Situationally the stripes literally took the ball away from the Bills and gave it back to the Chiefs. On the Clark call, they left the Bills 70+ yards away from the end zone. Go get a stop.
 

If you’re not playing well enough to beat the opponent and the refs, then you’re not playing well enough.

And that is the point with the Refs and their play calls.  It’s the situational reference.   How many times did a ticky tack call give the Chiefs a new set of down?  How many non calls ended a Bills drive?   

3rd and 2, pass to Diggs.  Even Collinsworth says it.. yeah Diggs was held there, but he’s gotta

make that catch.    That is the different standard.  
 

This is the difference between this team and the Fitzmagic teams of lore. We finally have a team ...and a QB especially.. that can overcome the Refs biased calls.  We finally have a team that refuses to let it get them better of them, and in fact, looks like it just pisses them off more!

 

That 4th quarter drive!!  The chiefs are doing the Chief things... they picked the pace up.  Made the plays. The Refs practically gift them a score.  What does Buffalo do... when they needed it most, Josh put the team on his back. Hurdles defenders, makes the plays and fires an absolute bullet for the TD to seal the Chiefs fate!   It was a thing of beauty that drive.   Not just because of the plays that were made, but because of the situational context within that moment.  They needed that drive..and they refused to let the league take it from them!

 

Go Bills!

[Fan in Chicago]

3 minutes ago, Dan said:

That 4th quarter drive!!  The chiefs are doing the Chief things... they picked the pace up.  Made the plays. The Refs practically gift them a score.  What does Buffalo do... when they needed it most, Josh put the team on his back. Hurdles defenders, makes the plays and fires an absolute bullet for the TD to seal the Chiefs fate!   It was a thing of beauty that drive.   Not just because of the plays that were made, but because of the situational context within that moment.  They needed that drive..and they refused to let the league take it from them!

 

Go Bills!

Along with a couple of drives in the Colts playoff game, this was one of Allen's best drives. It drove the stake deep into the hearts of the Chiefs. A long drive, at that stage of the game, with wet conditions, doing the mix of running and passing - it was absolutely brilliant and the stuff that makes for QB legends. 

[34-78-83]

1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

already acknowledged holding calls were missed - not sure what you're getting at.

 

The roughing the passer on Oliver was just a weak as the Clark driving Allen to the ground roughing, as Oliver was blocked low into the QB, and the play was just as impactful, along with the holdings you mentioned. Don't forget about the Trey Day PI when both players were hand fighting and the pass sailed 5 yards out of bounds. The Bills were definitely on the short side of the calls last night.

[Rockinon]

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On 10/7/2021 at 2:09 PM, Rockinon said:

38 - 27 Bills

Chiefs can't keep up.

Damn. I missed it by a KC TD.

[Chandler#81]

 

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[SCBills]

Very interesting to see a DL, that didn't get any sacks, have such an impact on the game.  

 

Mahomes is elite throwing off platform on broken plays, but like most (even elite) QB's, he struggles when moved off his spot in the pocket while having to throw into tight windows, facing pressure. 

 

This DL, rushing 4, did that...all game.   Forced Mahomes to feel pressure and have to move off his drop, and then force throws into tight windows in the short and intermediate range.  

 

I'm not going to say the league has "figured" out Mahomes, because his offense has been tearing it up until they played us - but if you bracket Hill, beat up Kelce, and get pressure with 4, Mahomes suddenly becomes very mortal.   We saw this in two different ways with Tampa (sacks) and Buffalo (constant pressure).

[gonzo1105]

Let’s get that Titans thread going, get that one and the Bills should be 8-1 in the first 9

[CommonCents]

Addison was a man on a mission last night. I know lots of other guys played well but that is the fastest I have seen him move in years. 

[RichRiderBills]

Sad to see the national media narrative apart from GMFB is how done the Chiefs are and not our ascension. 

[LabattBlue]

That was quite the statement made!   The drive on which the Bills clinched the game with their last TD, was a thing of beauty. One that makes you feel like this team has “it”. 👍

[MarkyMannn]

From GMFB this morning.  Schrager says Allen is now a better QB than Mahomes.  Brandt says Bills best team in league. 

 

But this gem from them, and thinking about it there is some truth to this.  "They got Rousseau just to go against Red#15".  Yeah that does make sense.  Sure they needed a pass rush against all teams but especially Mahomes after seeing the Bucs beat them down in the SB

[JMF2006]

Chiefs were doomed from the first drive.....John Krik said in his column yesterday that the first team that had to settle for a FG would lose

 

Buffalo at Kansas City KRYK PICK: Buffalo

Both offences are about as healthy as any in the league. Rain is likely, on a grass field, so defenders will slip. See where this is going? If rain isn’t too hard, first team to settle for a FG loses.

[Jauronimo]

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Very interesting to see a DL, that didn't get any sacks, have such an impact on the game.  

 

Mahomes is elite throwing off platform on broken plays, but like most (even elite) QB's, he struggles when moved off his spot in the pocket while having to throw into tight windows, facing pressure. 

 

This DL, rushing 4, did that...all game.   Forced Mahomes to feel pressure and have to move off his drop, and then force throws into tight windows in the short and intermediate range.  

 

I'm not going to say the league has "figured" out Mahomes, because his offense has been tearing it up until they played us - but if you bracket Hill, beat up Kelce, and get pressure with 4, Mahomes suddenly becomes very mortal.   We saw this in two different ways with Tampa (sacks) and Buffalo (constant pressure).

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326408

 

We were credited with 2 sacks.  The big stat is 8 QB hits while only allowing one.

[Roundybout]

Am launching the "Spencer Brown Enjoyer Club" membership is open now 

[SCBills]

I've been wanting to say Josh Allen is better than Patrick Mahomes for a minute, but it was mainly based on potential.   

 

I think I'm ready to say it.  

 

Josh Allen is better than Patrick Mahomes.  

 

With Dawson Knox becoming a Travis Kelce clone, you're seeing how unreal Allen can be when he's not carrying a team with only his WR's.

[Jauronimo]

Big win, a great performance all around.  I fully expect the Chiefs to get better and win the AFC West.  They are missing some key pieces on defense and aren't in sync right now.  If we see them again this year, they will be tougher.

[CircleTheWagons99]

"With the always dangerous Chiefs having cut their deficit to 11 early in the fourth, Allen piloted a 12-play, 85-yard drive that took up 7 minutes, 51 seconds (albeit helped immensely by a very questionable roughing the passer call)."

 

The man crush with Teams needs to stop, NFL is not even trying to hide their affection for certain teams.....

[Fixxxer]

 

[MAJBobby]

2 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

beating the Chiefs in every capacity (38-20 and not even that close) then complaining about the refs just sounds old & tired ......

Why?  the NFL has an officials Problem.  Can I not be happy about beating the chiefs soundly, but also talk about the Bad officiating in the NFL?