[Edit] Jon Gruden resigns over controversial emails discovered in WFT investigation

[Hapless Bills Fan]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:47 AM, Big Blitz said:

NFL is investigating the WFT trainers.

They came across the emails. 

They released them to the media.   

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Was it the trainers, or was it as part of the earlier investigation into personal conduct in the WFT organization?

[Warcodered]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:50 AM, klos63 said:

I don't like people losing their jobs over being an idiot, although in this situation he probably had to, but people shouldn't defend him. That's just crazy.

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I mean being an idiot seems like a legitimate reason for losing a job.

[What a Tuel]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:14 AM, klos63 said:

People that talk like that really aren't worth listening to.  They scream cancel culture, but ignore Gruden wanting to 'cancel' female officials, gays in football, protesters...

he canceled himself.

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The original email was about big lips which people rightly thought was absurd to crucify him over. Obviously once the whole story comes out actively insulting and campaigning against various marginalized groups is going to be a different story. 

Edited October 12, 2021 by What a Tuel

[BuffaloBillyG]

Nate Peterman's job security 📉📉📉📉

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Once we get canceled do we ever get a second chance ?

[klos63]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:51 AM, Warcodered said:

I mean being an idiot seems like a legitimate reason for losing a job.

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unemployment would skyrocket.

[Warcodered]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:52 AM, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Once we get canceled do we ever get a second chance ?

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only on Netflix.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Incidental to all of this, say a little prayer we have McD and not one of the idiot coaches anymore.  This exact story could have broken about Rex and probably Marrone.

Edited October 12, 2021 by SageAgainstTheMachine

[klos63]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:52 AM, What a Tuel said:

 

The original email was about big lips which people thought was rightly absurd to crucify him over. Obviously once the whole story comes out actively insulting and campaigning against various marginalized groups is going to be a different story. 

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I wouldn't be to sure of that. He will still have a lot of defenders.

[BuffaloBills1998]

Something tells me that Carr is probably a goner by next year. Whatever coach coming into this situation is most likely going to have to blow it all up and start from scratch. Players might be requesting trades or to be released

[djp14150]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:50 AM, Richard Noggin said:

Could easily photoshop "meals" to read as "emails." Just sayin

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  On 10/12/2021 at 1:50 AM, Richard Noggin said:

Could easily photoshop "meals" to read as "emails." Just sayin

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Can photoshop alot there.

 

id look at a Gatorade ad…

 

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Why stop here, there has to be "many" other email investigations needed out there. I mean because all these owners, execs, coaches and players have never conducted themselves in a similar manner. Urban Meyer is a good place to start, all the Wash folks, Kareem Hunt, Tyreek Hill......Everyone needs to placed under a microscope I say.

Edited October 12, 2021 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[Mango]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:52 AM, What a Tuel said:

 

The original email was about big lips which people thought was rightly absurd to crucify him over. Obviously once the whole story comes out actively insulting and campaigning against various marginalized groups is going to be a different story. 

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I don’t think it was absurd. Many, myself included, thought Gruden’s “rubbery lips” answer was BS, and that this was who Gruden was. 
 

The releasing of the rest of Grudens emails only goes to prove that he was being a total POS and is a toxic individual on his best day. 

[djp14150]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:51 AM, JoPoy88 said:

The Times story claims otherwise. Not really that important anyways.

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I don’t buy his time at espn he didn’t have some content that be called into question.

[Dablitzkrieg]

Daboll and Trubisky to the Raidas next season

[JohnNord]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:48 AM, klos63 said:

It happened over the course of 7 years, ending, i believe when the Raiders hired him.

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Ok I missed that part.  I was thinking this happened 10 years ago around the time of the Smith comments 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:47 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Said above ESPN address.

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Doesn't it just say the emails were sent during the time of his life he was working at ESPN? I don't think it says they were sent from his ESPN account

[JoPoy88]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:51 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Was it the trainers, or was it as part of the earlier investigation into personal conduct in the WFT organization?

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The Times phrases it as, “part of a separate workplace misconduct investigation that did not directly involve him”

[Mango]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:52 AM, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Once we get canceled do we ever get a second chance ?

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This was Grudens third HC gig. He also worked for different networks. 
 

So what second chance are you referring to? Another HC gig would be his 4th chance, and another network

gig would be at least his third…

[Hapless Bills Fan]

  On 10/12/2021 at 1:56 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Doesn't it just say the emails were sent during the time of his life he was working at ESPN? I don't think it says they were sent from his ESPN account

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One of the stories on this said "from ESPN", but that may have been a misunderstanding of what's out there, I dunno.

 

As @JoPoy88 says, I don't think it really matters.