[Edit] Jon Gruden resigns over controversial emails discovered in WFT investigation

[flaz]

Racist comments found during an NFL into the WFT

Mods, please remove if already posted somewhere 

I haven't found a link but our local ESPN radio just broke this, to my knowledge 

[BringBackFergy]

[transient]

There might be a link or 2 out there...

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=gruden+email&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS820US820&oq=gruden+email&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l2j69i60l2.8992j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#scso=_tblgYZRey9bWxA-tzbyQCA60:660

Edited October 8, 2021 by transient

[flaz]

https://sports.yahoo.com/jon-gruden-raiders-email-demaurice-smith-nflpa-201910929.html

 

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

Thanks @flaz

[BuffaloBillyG]

This isn't going to end well for Gruden. But it make work out extremely well for the Raider franchise.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, No Place To Hyde said:

This isn't going to end well for Gruden. But it make work out extremely well for the Raider franchise.

How much of that ridiculous contract is left anyway?

[HappyDays]

Since it's a 10 year old e-mail I don't know that it warrants discipline (although it's not like 2011 was exactly the Jim Crow era). But he's going to have a hard time facing some of his players after they read that comment.

[WhoTom]

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Gruden — then working as an analyst for ESPN's "Monday Night Football" reportedly sent the following email:

    “Dumboriss Smith has lips the size of michellin [sic] tires.”

 

 

I realize the phrase "ten year old" is referring to how long ago he wrote that, but reading what he wrote, I think it also applies to the mental age of the writer.

 

[flaz]

1 minute ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Thanks @flaz

 

Our local hosts are speculating on his status for Sunday.

 

How the hell did I scoop Yolo?!?

[Bray Wyatt]

His explanation is plausible in that he said he refers to people who lie as having rubber lips and that was an extension of that. Said he has no racist intent and apologized.

 

don’t think this will cost him his job 

 

quotes from ESPN article

 

Gruden told ESPN he has routinely used the term "rubber lips" to "refer to a guy I catch as lying ... he can't spit it out."

"I'm ashamed I insulted D. Smith," Gruden said, adding, "I never had a racial thought when I used it. ... I'm embarrassed by what's out there. I certainly never meant for it to sound that bad."

 

 

The email, sent to the president of the Washington Football Team as the NFL and its players were in the midst of trying to resolve a lockout, said that Smith had "lips the size of michellin tires," the Journal reported, saying it has reviewed the email.

Asked about the email by the Journal, Gruden said he didn't specifically recall writing it, but apologized.

Edited October 8, 2021 by Bray Wyatt

[TH3]

1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said:

His explanation is plausible in that he said he refers to people who lie as having rubber lips and that was an extension of that. Said he has no racist intent and apologized.

 

don’t think this will cost him his job 

Are you trying to be funny? Can’t tell

[ExiledInIllinois]

[delirious]

Quote

“I’m really sorry,” he said. 

 

[Bray Wyatt]

2 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Are you trying to be funny? Can’t tell

If jake Fromm and josh Allen who had no actual reputation in the nfl can be forgiven, I don’t see why gruden can’t or shouldn’t 

[CorkScrewHill]

8 minutes ago, flaz said:

 

Our local hosts are speculating on his status for Sunday.

 

How the hell did I scoop Yolo?!?

- INCREDIBLE ..

[flaz]

 

[Ralonzo]

“There is no racial bigotry on my team. Here you are all equally worthless!”

[Warcodered]

7 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

His explanation is plausible in that he said he refers to people who lie as having rubber lips and that was an extension of that. Said he has no racist intent and apologized.

 

don’t think this will cost him his job 

 

quotes from ESPN article

 

Gruden told ESPN he has routinely used the term "rubber lips" to "refer to a guy I catch as lying ... he can't spit it out."

"I'm ashamed I insulted D. Smith," Gruden said, adding, "I never had a racial thought when I used it. ... I'm embarrassed by what's out there. I certainly never meant for it to sound that bad."

 

 

The email, sent to the president of the Washington Football Team as the NFL and its players were in the midst of trying to resolve a lockout, said that Smith had "lips the size of michellin tires," the Journal reported, saying it has reviewed the email.

Asked about the email by the Journal, Gruden said he didn't specifically recall writing it, but apologized.

He's full of *****. He didn't say his lips were rubbery he said they were the size of tires, but nice try though.

[CorkScrewHill]

3 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

If jake Fromm and josh Allen who had no actual reputation in the nfl can be forgiven, I don’t see why gruden can’t or shouldn’t 

Teenage Josh Allen posts rap lyrics (having worked with teens for 20+ years they [post music lyrics .. even if they shouldn't) vs a grown man making obvious racial comments .. I do not see the correlation at all.