Jets give D-lineman with 6 career starts $55m

[1ManRaid]

https://www.nfl.com/news/jets-dl-john-franklin-meyers-agree-to-4-year-55m-extension

 

4 year extension with $30.2m guaranteed.  Jets continue their storied tradition of falling in love hard and fast with D-linemen giving John Franklin-Meyers a big payday for notching 3 sacks in 4 games.

 

Hopefully he turns out to be a flash in the pan and hampers their salary cap for the next few years.  Probably gets traded next offseason after the honeymoon wears off and the gravity of playing for New Jersey sinks in.

[Thurman#1]

Ah, not a lot of starts but almost a thousand snaps.

 

I only remembered the name and nothing else, but he's played a bit.

 

Agreed, hope he doesn't do well.

[1ManRaid]

14 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

Ah, not a lot of starts but almost a thousand snaps.

 

I only remembered the name and nothing else, but he's played a bit.

 

Agreed, hope he doesn't do well.

 

Ya I guess not everyone can be a day 1 starter, but that kind of contract would normally be reserved for after sustained success.  He had 5 career sacks over 2 seasons (plus a season on IR).  Jumping to a $55m extension after a good 4 game start to a season reeks of desperation.

[GunnerBill]

It is actually in essence a 2 year $15m deal. They can get out after 2022 for $1.2m dead cap. It is exactly the kind of deal you do for a guy who has flashed major potential but you are not totally sold on. 

 

Good contract. 

 

Man if the Jets have hit with Myers who they picked up off the waiver wire and Huff who was an UDFA that is a hell of a boost for them. Think what both of their success in these first 4 weeks also shows is Robert Salah is a really good defensive coach and he doesn't need the Nick Bosas and the Dee Fords of the world to generate pressure off the edge. 

Edited October 8, 2021 by GunnerBill

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Rent is expensive in metro NYC. 😁

[JMF2006]

Sounds like serial killers name   

[TAinLack.]

Burning money, its what they do - no joke.

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

I’ve got no problem with this

[The Jokeman]

Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’ve got no problem with this

As a Bills fan I agree with you. Though is 3 sacks in 4 games this season gives me some pause. 

[Malazan]

He's a good player who's been ascending. This is a good contract. 

[BuffaloBill]

2 hours ago, TAinLA said:

Burning money, its what they do - no joke.

 

 

 

I wish they would give me some before they just torch it.

[aristocrat]

Guy sounds like an ex president.  like one you find on money which they like to burn. 

[Pete]

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/19/nfl-los-angeles-rams-john-franklin-myers-high-school-team-winless/

 

John Franklin-Myers on going 0-40 in high school: 'It was really frustrating'

 

he should fit right in with the Jets the next 6 years

Edited October 8, 2021 by Pete

[Pete]

he actually sounds like an ascending player.  It's funny the Jets have spent so many high draft picks and big coin towards their DL- and they pay a 4th round pick waived by Rams

 

https://thejetpress.com/posts/ny-jets-5-highest-graded-pff-3-weeks/5

PFF has him ranked 2 on Jets

2. John Franklin-Myers, DE, NY Jets

John Franklin-Myers has been one of the pleasant surprises from the first three weeks of the season. The former Los Angeles Rams fourth-round pick broke out last season and developed into a quality contributor in the Jets' defensive-line rotation.

While his stat line wasn't anything special, the analytics indicated that bigger things likely awaited him in the future. And this time, the analytics didn't lie.

Franklin-Myers has been one of the Jets' best overall players through three weeks with a PFF grade of 73.4 that ranks 31st at his position. And if not for a lackluster Week 3, that grade would be even higher.

His 76.2 run-defense grade is actually good for 11th in the NFL and he's been productive as a pass rusher, despite an underwhelming 62.3 pass-rush grade. Once again, though, context is needed for that.

Franklin-Myers' pass-rush grade was much higher before this past week when he posted a lowly 53.8 pass-rush grade. But it's important to note that he was playing through a calf injury that kept him sidelined for most of the week.

He clearly wasn't 100 percent and it showed with his performance. But overall, Franklin-Myers has been phenomenal.

The 25-year-old has two sacks, a forced fumble, eight total pressures, five hurries, and four stops in just three games. Simply put, he's been one of the best players on the roster.

Once his calf injury is fully healed, expect Franklin-Myers to return to his superb pass-rushing ways.

[Jerome007]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

It is actually in essence a 2 year $15m deal. They can get out after 2022 for $1.2m dead cap. It is exactly the kind of deal you do for a guy who has flashed major potential but you are not totally sold on.  Good contract. 

Party pooper ha ha. If the contract is indeed like that, then it makes sense, and we don't want that. But your take seems to clash with the $30.2m guaranteed unless it's all front loaded.

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Party pooper ha ha. If the contract is indeed like that, then it makes sense, and we don't want that. But your take seems to clash with the $30.2m guaranteed unless it's all front loaded.

 

It is $14.8m guaranteed at signing according to Over The Cap (Spotrac who I usually prefer of the two have not updated yet). It is quite common these days for a smaller number to be fully guaranteed at signing but for the agents to leak out the bigger guarantee number which is based on escalators as you get through the contract. 

 

Over The Cap have $0 guaranteed salary after year 2. The likelihood is that there is some sort of escalator clause that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year next year then a chunk of the 2023 salary becomes guaranteed which would up the dead cap hit from $1.2m at the end of 2022 (probably to $4 or 5m). Then a further escalator that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year in 2023 a chunk of his 2024 salary guarantees and so on down the line. OTC doesn't have those escalator details yet.  

Edited October 8, 2021 by GunnerBill

[BigAl2526]

He's listed on the Jets depth chart as a "DL," but is a starter ahead of Shaq Lawson.  Presumably, he's on the outside most of the time He's 6'4" and 288.  The bookend is 6'3" and 255 lbs.  I presume that means he's a strong side or LDE.  That means he'll line up across from Spencer Brown when they play Buffalo.  If Brown is as good as he appears to be, and continues to develop, Franklin-Meyers will be all but invisible versus Buffalo.

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

He's listed on the Jets depth chart as a "DL," but is a starter ahead of Shaq Lawson.  Presumably, he's on the outside most of the time He's 6'4" and 288.  The bookend is 6'3" and 255 lbs.  I presume that means he's a strong side or LDE.  That means he'll line up across from Spencer Brown when they play Buffalo.  If Brown is as good as he appears to be, and continues to develop, Franklin-Meyers will be all but invisible versus Buffalo.

 

He has played mainly as the left defensive end, yes. With Bryce Huff on the right side. The Saleh defense uses a bit of Jim Schwartz style wide 9 type stuff though as well so in practice the differences between the strong side end and the weakside are less pronounced than in say a McDermott defense.

[Thurman#1]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

It is actually in essence a 2 year $15m deal. They can get out after 2022 for $1.2m dead cap. It is exactly the kind of deal you do for a guy who has flashed major potential but you are not totally sold on. 

 

Good contract. 

 

Man if the Jets have hit with Myers who they picked up off the waiver wire and Huff who was an UDFA that is a hell of a boost for them. Think what both of their success in these first 4 weeks also shows is Robert Salah is a really good defensive coach and he doesn't need the Nick Bosas and the Dee Fords of the world to generate pressure off the edge. 

 

 

Ah, interesting. Not desperate at all, then. 

 

I think the Jets are beginning to look up a bit, unfortunately. I like Salah.

[Thurman#1]

47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is $14.8m guaranteed at signing according to Over The Cap (Spotrac who I usually prefer of the two have not updated yet). It is quite common these days for a smaller number to be fully guaranteed at signing but for the agents to leak out the bigger guarantee number which is based on escalators as you get through the contract. 

 

Over The Cap have $0 guaranteed salary after year 2. The likelihood is that there is some sort of escalator clause that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year next year then a chunk of the 2023 salary becomes guaranteed which would up the dead cap hit from $1.2m at the end of 2022 (probably to $4 or 5m). Then a further escalator that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year in 2023 a chunk of his 2024 salary guarantees and so on down the line. OTC doesn't have those escalator details yet.  

 

 

Makes sense.

 

I hate that people call this $30M guaranteed. They do, lately, but it's just another way to give agents a chance to puff up what the contract sounds like without actually  having the contract live up to the puffery. If something isn't guaranteed unless you are on the roster a year from now, it isn't guaranteed now, and shouldn't be referred to that way. 

 

Not grumbling about you, Bill, just about how this is generally used in a misleading way.