report- Empire State Development downtown stadium proposal

[loyal2dagame]

downtown stadium still in play  (Channel 7)

 

more detailed channel 4 report

Edited October 7, 2021 by loyal2dagame

[LeGOATski]

Awesome. I haven't seen any threads about this in a long time.

[mead107]

Will they build a new training center also in downtown?

 

[That's No Moon]

South Park and Louisiana. Perry Projects property IIRC. Right where you'd think. Paladino is pushing some buttons to make sure his First Ward properties pay off. Dunkirk Don is right about one thing. Follow the money.

5 minutes ago, mead107 said:

Will they build a new training center also in downtown?

 

Plenty of teams have training facilities away from the stadium. Washington comes to mind. Their facility is in Ashburn VA, the stadium is on the other side of town in Landover, MD.

[Not at the table Karlos]

5 minutes ago, mead107 said:

Will they build a new training center also in downtown?

 

Probably not. A lot of teams that have Downtown stadiums have facilities elsewhere 

[K-9]

10 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

South Park and Louisiana. Perry Projects property IIRC. Right where you'd think. Paladino is pushing some buttons to make sure his First Ward properties pay off. Dunkirk Don is right about one thing. Follow the money.

[BuffaloBills1998]

I like the idea of a downtown stadium, but it’s gonna be more expensive than the 1.4 billion stadium in OP. Chances are it ends up in OP

[SectionC3]

I suspect it's just due diligence.  Expect Orchard Park.  There's probably a negotiation element to this, too; Kathy can feign interest in the downtown location with the higher price during her negotiations with the legislature and "settle" on the Orchard Park option everyone probably preferred all along.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Eff him and his Dots...🤨

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[ProcessAccepted]

1 hour ago, mead107 said:

Will they build a new training center also in downtown?

 

Can they not continue to use the existing one? 

 

[BillsfaninSB]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

South Park and Louisiana. Perry Projects property IIRC. Right where you'd think. Paladino is pushing some buttons to make sure his First Ward properties pay off. Dunkirk Don is right about one thing. Follow the money.

Plenty of teams have training facilities away from the stadium. Washington comes to mind. Their facility is in Ashburn VA, the stadium is on the other side of town in Landover, MD.

The Panthers are located in another state. 

[Beast]

What's the big facination with downtown? What does Buffalo have that will make the gameday experience better than what we already have in Orchard Park?

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, Beast said:

What's the big facination with downtown? What does Buffalo have that will make the gameday experience better than what we already have in Orchard Park?

 

It’s just fun to bring up, because……well, sit back and watch!  

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, mead107 said:

Will they build a new training center also in downtown?

 

 

Why? It's rare for a team to have a training center at their stadium.

[That's No Moon]

43 minutes ago, Beast said:

What's the big facination with downtown? What does Buffalo have that will make the gameday experience better than what we already have in Orchard Park?

Well, part of it is that stadiums recently have had residential and commerical spaces around them as well. That makes more sense in the city than it does in OP. 

 

I took a tour of Mile High this summer and there are lots of new apartments and the like right around it which supports more commerical space also. If they dropped it at SP and Louisiana and demoed the Perry Projects a development like that could go in that space.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

South Park and Louisiana. Perry Projects property IIRC. Right where you'd think. Paladino is pushing some buttons to make sure his First Ward properties pay off. Dunkirk Don is right about one thing. Follow the money.

Plenty of teams have training facilities away from the stadium. Washington comes to mind. Their facility is in Ashburn VA, the stadium is on the other side of town in Landover, MD.

 

Was going to say Perry Projects too. City-owned land ripe for redevelopment between Canalside and Larkinville.

 

1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I like the idea of a downtown stadium, but it’s gonna be more expensive than the 1.4 billion stadium in OP. Chances are it ends up in OP

 

Not necessarily. If the Perry Projects are offered up by the city that saves a lot on land acquisition.

 

47 minutes ago, Beast said:

What's the big facination with downtown? What does Buffalo have that will make the gameday experience better than what we already have in Orchard Park?

 

Tailgating will diminish but not completely go away. One way to argue the benefit of a downtown stadium is if local businesses host pre-game parties, etc. Besides, too much of Buffalo's gameday experience involves getting passed-out drunk. Honestly that's something we need to get away from.

[Beast]

3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Well, part of it is that stadiums recently have had residential and commerical spaces around them as well. That makes more sense in the city than it does in OP. 

 

I took a tour of Mile High this summer and there are lots of new apartments and the like right around it which supports more commerical space also. If they dropped it at SP and Louisiana and demoed the Perry Projects a development like that could go in that space.

 

OK, so what about that will make the gamday experience better?

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, Beast said:

 

OK, so what about that will make the gamday experience better?

 

People spending money at the stadium and local businesses? Ever been to a Ravens game? You have tailgating but you also have restaurants hosting pregame parties. Not everyone wants to grill and chug beer.

[Beast]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Tailgating will diminish but not completely go away. One way to argue the benefit of a downtown stadium is if local businesses host pre-game parties, etc. Besides, too much of Buffalo's gameday experience involves getting passed-out drunk. Honestly that's something we need to get away from.

 

So, because some get passed out drunk "we" need to get away from the tailgating experience?

 

Um, no. I'll continue to enjoy drinking within moderation like most do, as well as the company and food!

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

People spending money at the stadium and local businesses? Ever been to a Ravens game? You have tailgating but you also have restaurants hosting pregame parties. Not everyone wants to grill and chug beer.

 

And not everyone wants to go to a restaurant. In fact, I pretty much guarantee most Bills fans don't. That has become a big part of the gameday experience. Ever notice all the campers and people having a wonderful time?

[PromoTheRobot]

4 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

So, because some get passed out drunk "we" need to get away from the tailgating experience?

 

Um, no. I'll continue to enjoy drinking within moderation like most do, as well as the company and food!

 

Tailgating will not be eliminated. But you'll have other options. Imagine having nice hotels located next door for those of us coming from out of town.

Edited October 8, 2021 by PromoTheRobot