GoBills808 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Just for the record though. PFF had him at a 58 or something like that before this game. So according to the same rating site that people are now posting, he was playing as a bottom tier starting linebacker. So is PFF only accurate when they rate Bills players high? Can't both be true? He wasn't playing great and then played a great game? He was playing fine. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Just for the record though. PFF had him at a 58 or something like that before this game. So according to the same rating site that people are now posting, he was playing as a bottom tier starting linebacker. So is PFF only accurate when they rate Bills players high? Can't both be true? He wasn't playing great and then played a great game? Correct. He wasn't playing impactful football early in the season and then he played a tremendous game Sunday. It shouldn't have taken PFF grades for anyone to determine that. Eyeballs would suffice. Hopefully this game was a turning point for him. He's had some(few) games in the past where he flashed like this and then didn't maintain though. 1 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Just for the record though. PFF had him at a 58 or something like that before this game. So according to the same rating site that people are now posting, he was playing as a bottom tier starting linebacker. So is PFF only accurate when they rate Bills players high? Can't both be true? He wasn't playing great and then played a great game? No. I consistently say "***** PFF" no matter how they grade a Bills player. They're a great source for stats and that's it. Their grades and analysis lack any context. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: No. I consistently say "***** PFF" no matter how they grade a Bills player. They're a great source for stats and that's it. Their grades and analysis lack any context. That's fair. I have no problem trusting what I see and making my own opinions as I'm sure you do. I probably have no further insight into the play call and his responsibilities than PFF does. In the end it is just an opinion. And if he continues to play well I will be happy because having a young MLB that is playing well is a good thing. But if he plays poorly I'm not going to stop pointing it out for him or any player. Its juat analysis and has nothing to do with my Fandom or wish that they all play well. Go Bills! Quote
GoBills808 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: No. I consistently say "***** PFF" no matter how they grade a Bills player. They're a great source for stats and that's it. Their grades and analysis lack any context. PFF utilizes amateur 'graders' using broadcast tape to come up with their player grades. Referencing them in any capacity is hilarious. 1 Quote
Dukestreetking Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: The Edmunds Report agrees with this award. Hell FD, it's more than that: I think voters read the Report...and that's what put him over the top! 1 Quote
4_kidd_4 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 My takeaway here is that “Rigoberto” is an actual name, and I like it. 1 Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 I'm happy that Edmunds had his first strong game of the season. I'm a little surprised it was strong enough to win defensive player of the week, but just glancing at other box scores no other defenders are really popping out. Edmunds is already trending for another Pro-Bowl despite playing average (at best) football for 3 out of 4 games with the only quality performance coming against a bottom tier offense starting a 3rd string QB. Quote
LeGOATski Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: That's fair. I have no problem trusting what I see and making my own opinions as I'm sure you do. I probably have no further insight into the play call and his responsibilities than PFF does. In the end it is just an opinion. And if he continues to play well I will be happy because having a young MLB that is playing well is a good thing. But if he plays poorly I'm not going to stop pointing it out for him or any player. Its juat analysis and has nothing to do with my Fandom or wish that they all play well. Go Bills! I don't completely trust what I see. I watch analysis from more knowledgeable football-heads that put up their all-22 videos each week. 2 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Now do it against a team that isnt the Texans/Mills. Quote
Don Otreply Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Gisele said: I'm no anti-Edmunds, but why?? Try to think about what you said, then openly look at what his total responsibilities and individual impact for that game were, and the outcome, as it was measured to be the most dominating defensive effort since 1983 iirc…, Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Just for the record though. PFF had him at a 58 or something like that before this game. So according to the same rating site that people are now posting, he was playing as a bottom tier starting linebacker. So is PFF only accurate when they rate Bills players high? Can't both be true? He wasn't playing great and then played a great game? I can only speak for myself but I couldn't care less what PFF has to say good or bad. 2 Quote
Max Fischer Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 To me, Edmunds doesn't need awards and "splash" plays to prove he's an extremely important cog in the Bills defense, but it sure is deserved. Quote
Ralonzo Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Maybe being the centerpiece to another dominant performance was involved in the voting. It’ll get you a game ball too! Quote
NewEra Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: I'm happy that Edmunds had his first strong game of the season. I'm a little surprised it was strong enough to win defensive player of the week, but just glancing at other box scores no other defenders are really popping out. Edmunds is already trending for another Pro-Bowl despite playing average (at best) football for 3 out of 4 games with the only quality performance coming against a bottom tier offense starting a 3rd string QB. Similar to his pro bowl honors. Named because the competition was lacking. He was the best player on a defense registering it’s 2nd shutout in 3 weeks. Honor by default 1 Quote
Gisele Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Try to think about what you said, then openly look at what his total responsibilities and individual impact for that game were, and the outcome, as it was measured to be the most dominating defensive effort since 1983 iirc…, How's this? I love every one of our players and think they are all the absolute best at their position. Let's move on Quote
Governor Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 I could’ve picked that ball off and ran it in for 6. 1 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: PFF utilizes amateur 'graders' using broadcast tape to come up with their player grades. Referencing them in any capacity is hilarious. Yup. I took a "training" course with them once. to say their is any degree of accuracy is laughable stats, sure. Grades? Verryyyyy subjective 1 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 I don't hate Edmunds but let's face it, Edmunds would make the HOF if he played against Davis Mills every week. Play well against Mahomes and I'll gladly have the biggest slice of crow for dinner and humble pie for dessert. 1 Quote
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