Kelly the Dog Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 I do think the Bills will make calls to agent. I don’t think they are likely to make sufficient offer. But one of the strong reasons for signing him or wanting to, in addition to his talent, is to keep him away from KC, Balt, Bucs and anyone in our way. 2
DrDawkinstein Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: In not so many words Only the most sensitive of snowflakes were upset with this. 4
CountDorkula Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Your sarcasm detector has got to be broken, right? 😁 Apparently it is. its to hard to tell anymore Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Only the most sensitive of snowflakes were upset with this. He wasnt wrong either. The Bills at that time were terrible, and barely on TV. Star player wants to play in prime time games, i guess is unheard of 2
Bill from NYC Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Can only draft who is available. We took Cordy Glenn with our 2nd round pick, and he was/is arguably the best OT that went after Kalil was picked #4 overall. So equivalent to picking OL early. Had Nix used his crystal ball and picked Russell Wilson in the 3rd (which was a stretch/risk back then at the time), then it would have easily been considered one of the Bills best drafts ever, even with using our 1st pick on a CB. So with the way that draft played out it was absolutely the right thing to draft CB 1st, then OT and QB. We just missed on that QB. I am not sure I'm willing to say that Cordy Glenn was a better OT than Riley Reiff. Also, DeCastro was a very good guard before he got hurt. There is obviously more to drafting than taking someone who is "good." The idea is to build a winning team. I'm aware that hindsight is 2020, but we could have come away with an excellent QB and at least 2 blockers.We could even have accomplished this while trading down for extra picks. In those days, all the Bills did was draft well enough to keep from having the 1st pick. We were simply NOT going to win. The record says it all.
mbs Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 If Beane doesn't want to piss away the tiny amount of cap we have left on an already elite secondary by signing a glass-boned me first malcontent in the downward slope of his overrated career, I'm fine with that. If, on the other hand, Beane wants to use his cap magic to turn a great secondary into an incandescent secondary by signing a perennial pro-bowl win-first premier playmaker in the prime of his career, I can accept that too. 3
Blank Stare Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: In not so many words Oh ok. I actually thought you were referring to another instance of which I was unaware. I’m not trying to bust your chops, but that’s a far cry from “see ya losers”.
NickelCity Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 He's always seemed like a dbag. But he's a good corner and I'd prefer it if he didn't go to another contender.
billsfan89 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, mbs said: If Beane doesn't want to piss away the tiny amount of cap we have left on an already elite secondary by signing a glass-boned me first malcontent in the downward slope of his overrated career, I'm fine with that. If, on the other hand, Beane wants to use his cap magic to turn a great secondary into an incandescent secondary by signing a perennial pro-bowl win-first premier playmaker in the prime of his career, I can accept that too. McD had his chance to franchise or resign Gilmore and he didn’t because he felt like he wasn’t a fit for the scheme. I doubt 5 years later in a season where he started on the PUP he is going to suddenly change his mind on Gilmore’s scheme fit. The chances of Gilmore coming here are slim based off that alone. But I agree with your post that if somehow they change their mind this regime has earned the trust of the fan base. Just now, NickelCity said: He's always seemed like a dbag. But he's a good corner and I'd prefer it if he didn't go to another contender. I could see Tampa or Carolina. KC is always a possibility too. Hoping he goes to Carolina as I don’t want to see him on a contender either. 1
BADOLBILZ Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I do think the Bills will make calls to agent. I don’t think they are likely to make sufficient offer. But one of the strong reasons for signing him or wanting to, in addition to his talent, is to keep him away from KC, Balt, Bucs and anyone in our way. I can't really imagine the factors coming together where Gilmore would join the Bills............but he certainly would give them a piece in the secondary that would allow them to play the best passing offenses much differently. You might actually be able to take away both Kelce and Hill in a playoff matchup and still have some bodies left to address the rest if you had both White and Gilmore in combination with those safeties. I wasn't very enthused about the *decent* UFA Steven Nelson when he was available because he really doesn't move the needle in matchups against star receiving threats........but a player the caliber of Gilmore is a different story. 1 4
billsfan89 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I can't really imagine the factors coming together where Gilmore would join the Bills............but he certainly would give them a piece in the secondary that would allow them to play the best passing offenses much differently. You might actually be able to take away both Kelce and Hill in a playoff matchup and still have some bodies left to address the rest if you had both White and Gilmore in combination with those safeties. I wasn't very enthused about the *decent* UFA Steven Nelson when he was available because he really doesn't move the needle in matchups against star receiving threats........but a player the caliber of Gilmore is a different story. Problem is McD plays a zone heavy scheme no? I remember in 2017 when they let Gilmore walk the reasoning was that he wasn’t a fit for the scheme as Gilmore was more of a man to man corner. I don’t see that as having changed. I just don’t see the fit here. This team could use another body at corner but I just don’t see this being the right fit. 1 1
mbs Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: But I agree with your post that if somehow they change their mind this regime has earned the trust of the fan base. Not that I miss those days, but Hackett, Marrone, and Whaley made me feel smart. Nowadays, it's best that OBD just not read my letters.
Scott7975 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep I posted that Twitter talk in teh thread. How you can get 15M under 3M and have voidable years And in the offseason he was. See things change IN Season, but you know that right? Did they change? No. He sat on Pup and he will be on a new team pretty soon. He did the same thing here. Whined about wanting a big contract, which I don't have a problem with... then he dogged the season and left. I don't have a problem with him wanting a big contract. I don't have a problem with him leaving for greener pastures. He gave minimum effort that year and that's where it's a problem. Would I want him on this team right now? Absolutely it makes this team better contenders... if he plays and gives full effort. It's not going to happen though, so I am not going to get my panties in a bunch in a thread that will go on until he is on a new team that isn't ours.
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Bills are only championship participant not interested in signing Gilmore. Why?
MAJBobby Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Did they change? No. He sat on Pup and he will be on a new team pretty soon. He did the same thing here. Whined about wanting a big contract, which I don't have a problem with... then he dogged the season and left. I don't have a problem with him wanting a big contract. I don't have a problem with him leaving for greener pastures. He gave minimum effort that year and that's where it's a problem. Would I want him on this team right now? Absolutely it makes this team better contenders... if he plays and gives full effort. It's not going to happen though, so I am not going to get my panties in a bunch in a thread that will go on until he is on a new team that isn't ours. Ahhh so you are all mad because of YOUR perception of dogging it (NEWS FLASH HE DIDNT). And before he LEFT the Bills that season before, he had Career Highs in every category. But again your perception of Doggin it Edited October 6, 2021 by MAJBobby 1 1
Kelly the Dog Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 In 2016, Gilmore’s last season, the one he gave up on us, he had five INT, was voted to his first Pro Bowl, and won the EdBlock Courage award. The Ed Block Courage Award is an annual award presented to a player from each team in the National Football League (NFL) who are voted for by their teammates as role models of inspiration, sportsmanship, and courage 3 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Bills are only championship participant not interested in signing Gilmore. Why? I'd guess the interest is not mutual.
Scott7975 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Ahhh so you are all mad because of YOUR perception of dogging it (NEWS FLASH HE DIDNT). And before he LEFT the Bills that season before, he had Career Highs in every category. But again your perception of Doggin it Maybe so. I remember the plays that he was torched dogging it and looking at other players to blame. It doesn't matter. He isn't going to be on our team. I would be shocked if he ends up in Buffalo. What is this anyhow? Its a tweet in 2021 about 2019 and beyond. He left in 2017, And who said I was mad. Im not mad and I don't hate Gilmore. Edited October 6, 2021 by Scott7975
MAJBobby Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Maybe so. I remember the plays that he was torched dogging it and looking at other players to blame. It doesn't matter. He isn't going to be on our team. I would be shocked if he ends up in Buffalo. What is this anyhow? Its a tweet in 2021 about 2019 and beyond. He left in 2017, And who said I was mad. Im not mad and I don't hate Gilmore. Again you perception Erin when in 2016 Gilmore set career highs in every stat of his and was a highly rated player and cashed. Dogging players do not do that.
Scott7975 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Again you perception Erin when in 2016 Gilmore set career highs in every stat of his and was a highly rated player and cashed. Dogging players do not do that. Again if it is then it is. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day he isn't coming back to Buffalo.
MAJBobby Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Again if it is then it is. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day he isn't coming back to Buffalo. And if it is that it is. But this is a Bills message board we’re we talk about things Bills related. And the Bills should absolutely be contacting his Agent and making their pitch.
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