Week 5: Bills at Chiefs on SNF

[Process]

6 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

Raiders are still undefeated.

I am not saying they are frauds or pretenders, but there is 0 chance they are winning 13+ games and contending for the 1 seed, not while in that division. Come on. 

[fast*eddie]

Chiefs are 2 - 2 . They can be defeated .

 

[HurlyBurly51]

2 minutes ago, fast*eddie said:

Chiefs are 2 - 2 . They can be defeated .

 

Twice so far

[Don Otreply]

Imo, there is a lot of pressure on KC, they are already down two games, and they need to right their ship, a loss for them hurts way more than a loss for us at this point in the season, it’s gonna be a dog fight for sixty minutes, confidence, execution, and attitude, combined with a free flowing game plan, should be on the menu, 

 

Go Bills!!!

[ColoradoBills]

32 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Imo, there is a lot of pressure on KC, they are already down two games, and they need to right their ship, a loss for them hurts way more than a loss for us at this point in the season, it’s gonna be a dog fight for sixty minutes, confidence, execution, and attitude, combined with a free flowing game plan, should be on the menu, 

 

Go Bills!!!

 

KC players are on a Monday rest day.  I hope the Raiders/Chargers game is a good one with both teams playing well.  They're playing for the

AFCW Division lead!

[WideNine]

12 hours ago, eball said:

I really love this team but I can’t get myself to feel confident about a KC game until I see them do it.  I want an aggressive game plan on both sides of the ball and let the chips fall where they may.  This week’s game does not make or break the season, but a W would go a very long way towards a potential playoff matchup.  We can’t be the Chefs’ beyotches any longer.

 

 

 

I am the same way - have to see it done once first before the positivity can kick into gear.

 

In our first meeting last year they ran all over us - the spin on that was that the Bills focused on taking away the pass. My take is that we sucked last year stopping the run even when we stacked the box against obvious run formations so our coaching staff just picked our poison. We are much improved in that area with Star and Zimmer manning the middle and better gap discipline.

 

In our second meeting I felt like we tried to divide the baby trying to balance our run and pass defense. The net result was that we were good at neither - Kelce released off the line freely without anyone jamming him or challenging his route and Hill was making guys look silly with RAC and the middle of the field felt like it was always open with Mahomes using his eyes to move Edmunds off the spots he needed to be to defend passing lanes. The biggest factor perhaps is that we could not generate a thing against their patchwork offensive line with our front 4 and Mahomes had all day to comfortably operate.

 

No disrupted timing on routes, all day to throw, porous run defense on short yardage made for a long day for our defense. When we got more desperate and sent 5 after Mahomes he did what Josh does and found the guy open in man coverage or the gaps in zone and ate our lunch.

 

New year with a different team with some new pieces on both sides and a better commitment to slowing the rush with 11 personnel and feeding Zackin Singlemoss and leveraging Knox more. We could flip the script, but they are going to be stacking the box and balling hard to get us out of that run balance early to push Allen and Daboll into pass-only mode that is more suited to their defensive strengths.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2021 by WideNine

[Ethan in Cleveland]

6 hours ago, sven233 said:

One thing that has been missing from our offense for a while are Allen scrambles.  I'm not talking designed runs, but rather him just pulling the ball down and taking off.  Obviously, I would rather him keep his eyes downfield and look to make big plays, but there are a few times in each game, especially on 3rd downs and in short yardage situations where there are lanes available for him to take off, potentially get a first down, but sometimes he tries forcing passes.  Some he completes them, some he doesn't.  I am a big proponent of keeping the chains moving as much as possible because it gives us more opportunities to hit big plays.

 

He used to do it a lot, and I don't need him to do it at that level he used to because he is better throwing the ball than he used to be, but one thing it did was keep defenses honest and force them to pay attention to it.  I think if he got back to doing it 3 or 4 times a game, it really help our offense.

Good point.  Teams used to put a spy on him. I dont see that happening anymore 

Another thing I have not seen is many designed roll outs and throws back across the field. Daboll seemed to have 1 or 2 a game in the past. It may be that our OL is not mobile enough to run effectively.  

[stevestojan]

12 hours ago, eball said:

I really love this team but I can’t get myself to feel confident about a KC game until I see them do it.  I want an aggressive game plan on both sides of the ball and let the chips fall where they may.  This week’s game does not make or break the season, but a W would go a very long way towards a potential playoff matchup.  We can’t be the Chefs’ beyotches any longer.

 

 

This sums it up perfectly. Well said. 

[Fan in Chicago]

12 hours ago, eball said:

I really love this team but I can’t get myself to feel confident about a KC game until I see them do it.  I want an aggressive game plan on both sides of the ball and let the chips fall where they may.  This week’s game does not make or break the season, but a W would go a very long way towards a potential playoff matchup.  We can’t be the Chefs’ beyotches any longer.

 

 

Agree word for word and will add that I want the refs to call a good game. If they continue to allow the Chiefs DBs to get away with mugging our receivers, we better have a plan to counter. 

[Rockinon]

Another thing KC does very well is presnap motion. They are very good at getting the defense to bite on that crap. Just hope the coaches and players are in the film room for this one. I think KC's losses this year are an indicator that teams have had another year to study them.

[Process]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

Imo, there is a lot of pressure on KC, they are already down two games, and they need to right their ship, a loss for them hurts way more than a loss for us at this point in the season, it’s gonna be a dog fight for sixty minutes, confidence, execution, and attitude, combined with a free flowing game plan, should be on the menu, 

 

Go Bills!!!

It's definitely way more important for them from a standings perspective. They are pretty much out of the race for the 1 seed with a loss. 

[Logic]

The Nature Boy said it best...

To be the man, you've gotta beat the man!

[stuvian]

Chiefs D can be had

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

This league is about matchups. I just don’t get it, but we have not matched up well with KC, esp their defense against our offense. We are going to have to really change things up.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

We get pressure on Mahomes we win. If not we lose.

[Solomon Grundy]

Link to all of Herbert’s throws vs Chiefs. Not many deep passes. Quick throws to RBs, TEs, slants to receivers. Seemed to pick on #21. Maybe recipe to beat Chiefs 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Link to all of Herbert’s throws vs Chiefs. Not many deep passes. Quick throws to RBs, TEs, slants to receivers. Seemed to pick on #21. Maybe recipe to beat Chiefs 

Good advice would probably be don't try to be as ridiculous and over the top as the Chiefs. Play the game the way you play it.

[Solomon Grundy]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Good advice would probably be don't try to be as ridiculous and over the top as the Chiefs. Play the game the way you play it.

That’s the problem and opposing teams know it. Josh likes to push the ball downfield. Even he said sometimes he has to go bottom to top instead of top to bottom.

[AuntieEm]

12 hours ago, njbuff said:

 

We all get that.

 

I don't think there is a soul on this form that is expecting the Bills D to go into KC and shut them down, no one has in KC. NE did that for a half in the conference title game of 2018. That's about it.

 

This game is about Josh being an MVP, Daboll mixing in a running game to keep the Chiefs pass rushers honest (which they failed miserably in doing last year) and the Bills actually having healthy receivers to help him out.

 

      I expect a shutout every game until the other team  scores. After the goose egg is broken I just expect them to keep it difficult for other team to score additional points.  I don't demand shutouts but I always will expect it.

      

     With this coaching regime and this franchise  QB and skill players we have on both side as of the ball. Teams during the drought not so much.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by AuntieEm
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[Putin]

14 hours ago, galept said:

This is one of those "get over the hump" games, which will make it so very painful if we lose. It's a must-win in my book.

If we want to be considered  as the best team in the AFC and  SB contender then this is the game we have to win