BearNorth Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Round 2 more then likely.. you usually don’t take guards in round 1 unless they can play multiple positions Wonder if there's another Ali Marpet around. He played D3 college in the Bills back yard, we drafted Darby, and thought Richie Incognito and John Miller were our long term answers. Thinking the scouting staff missed that one.
Jerome007 Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Wow. You guys are right. It seems Ford is beat on every play shown. It shows how nimble Josh is. As long as only one defender is free, he just sidesteps the dude and gets on with business.
H2o Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Two takeaways from this video. First, Josh is like superhuman good when he's dialed in from the start. Pretty much unstoppable. Second, Cody Ford is bad. Like PS, last resort in a dire situation level bad.
Motorin' Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Wow. You guys are right. It seems Ford is beat on every play shown. It shows how nimble Josh is. As long as only one defender is free, he just sidesteps the dude and gets on with business. Yeah. And it shows what you have to do to limit Allen. You need an inside rush and contain him from rolling to his right. Maybe that's easier said than done. Young was more than happy to run 10 yards deep and give Josh that lane all game long. TJ Watt was not. 2
Real McClappy Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, H2o said: Two takeaways from this video. First, Josh is like superhuman good when he's dialed in from the start. Pretty much unstoppable. Second, Cody Ford is bad. Like PS, last resort in a dire situation level bad. Ford looks flat out lost. Not that it matters but pounded my fist on that 2019 2nd round pick when we passed up DK at WR. Looks like we need to some more support here asap. Luckily Josh is Josh, I can only imagine if he had a top 10 o-line right now.
HappyDays Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Jim Kubiak gave him a 100% performance grade for this game, which I don't believe he has ever done. https://buffalonews.com/opinion/columnists/jim-kubiak-how-does-a-qb-get-a-perfect-grade-dissecting-bills-josh-allen-vs/article_4261a4ae-1fd8-11ec-b6d5-b336c5b8d67c.html
TC in St. Louis Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Ford was dominated by Payne. I hear that Payne is a beast. Our tackles (Star, specifically) get double teamed all the time. Maybe when you play a guy like Payne you should plan on double teaming him. 1
Pokebball Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Gonzonzo said: Looking at the video you can see how good Allen is and how bad Ford is. In half of the plays he was beaten by Payne. You turned all my focus from enjoying Josh to being so very disappointed with Ford. I can't unsee Ford now.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Thanks for that. JT does a really good job. That first TD to Sanders was insane when you see when he threw it.
JaCrispy Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 43 minutes ago, H2o said: Two takeaways from this video. First, Josh is like superhuman good when he's dialed in from the start. Pretty much unstoppable. Second, Cody Ford is bad. Like PS, last resort in a dire situation level bad. Would you say he’s “Bobby Hart“ bad? 1 1
Don Otreply Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 In my less than totally credible opinion, Fords technique looks really off, he almost immediately turns sideways to the defensive player, allowing an open lane to the QB, instead of staying squared up on him, and staying between the QB and the guy he is blocking, he does this repeatedly, which almost always requires him to “hold” just to have a chance at containing his man. Am I seeing this correctly? Ford does appear to be the weakest link on the line in this footage…, Go Bills!!!
Bobby Hooks Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 6 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Round 2 more then likely.. you usually don’t take guards in round 1 unless they can play multiple positions I’m not a fan of this “you usually don’t” stuff. We’re not a usual team. We’re most likely going to be picking at the very end of the draft for a few years at least. We don’t have many spots left. If there’s a choice between a guy that can make your team, and make a difference you pick him regardless of position. “Oomph, I really wish Josh didn’t get injured on that play, we shoulda took that guard that would’ve blocked his guy and saved our qb worth a quarter of a billion dollars for 5 years. But people say you don’t draft them early.” Meanwhile the developmental linebacker/receiver/corner is sitting on the pine pony.
Don Otreply Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I’m not a fan of this “you usually don’t” stuff. We’re not a usual team. We’re most likely going to be picking at the very end of the draft for a few years at least. We don’t have many spots left. If there’s a choice between a guy that can make your team, and make a difference you pick him regardless of position. “Oomph, I really wish Josh didn’t get injured on that play, we shoulda took that guard that would’ve blocked his guy and saved our qb worth a quarter of a billion dollars for 5 years. But people say you don’t draft them early.” Meanwhile the developmental linebacker/receiver/corner is sitting on the pine pony. There should be agreement at least to some degree of what you are saying, at this point in our team’s development it’s pick and choose time as it were, and not just at the guard position, although that is in our case very important. Go Bills!!!
Solomon Grundy Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Pokebball said: You turned all my focus from enjoying Josh to being so very disappointed with Ford. I can't unsee Ford now. Devin Singletary’s route running is horrible. 1 1
LeGOATski Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 I understand the "drift" nitpick on Josh's miss to Diggs, but not on the Moss and Sanders TDs. On the Moss TD, Josh would've been crushed if he doesn't step out of the pocket. On the Sanders TD, Josh is trying to keep his throwing lane clean as he feels out the RDE, CB, and S. He's so damn good. Been saying since last year that his pocket presence is Rodgers-esque. Probably the 2nd best part of his game after the "arm talent" 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: Devin Singletary’s route running is horrible. You think that's bad? Just watch Tremaine Edmunds in any of these clips. He's nowhere close to making a play.
Solomon Grundy Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I understand the "drift" nitpick on Josh's miss to Diggs, but not on the Moss and Sanders TDs. On the Moss TD, Josh would've been crushed if he doesn't step out of the pocket. On the Sanders TD, Josh is trying to keep his throwing lane clean as he feels out the RDE, CB, and S. He's so damn good. Been saying since last year that his pocket presence is Rodgers-esque. Probably the 2nd best part of his game after the "arm talent" You think that's bad? Just watch Tremaine Edmunds in any of these clips. He's nowhere close to making a play. I’ll be tuning into the Edmunds Report after week 4 for his analysis
BringBackFlutie Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) This is a really fun video. Josh erases a multitude of sins. I'm slightly worried about his constant drifting towards his target, which is kind of a tell. ...but he might be creating that bad habit due to his awful protection, and also, he (maybe unintentionally) gets the defense to cheat whichever way he's drifting, then takes off the opposite way or throws to his opposite side. Not only is the latter kind of hilarious because his physical traits allow him to do that with ease, but you also wonder if he drifts one way intentionally, and NOT because his protection is breaking down. Edited October 2, 2021 by BringBackFlutie
K-9 Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: Ford was dominated by Payne. I hear that Payne is a beast. Our tackles (Star, specifically) get double teamed all the time. Maybe when you play a guy like Payne you should plan on double teaming him. The WFT have two outstanding DTs, so it’s a pick your poison scenario with them. Ford isn’t the only OLman Payne has embarrassed and he certainly won’t be the last.
LeGOATski Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: This is a really fun video. Josh erases a multitude of sins. I'm slightly worried about his constant drifting towards his target, which is kind of a tell. ...but he might be creating that bad habit due to his awful protection, and also, he (maybe unintentionally) gets the defense to cheat whichever way he's drifting, then takes off the opposite way or throws to his opposite side. Not only is the latter kind of hilarious because his physical traits allow him to do that with ease, but you also wonder if he drifts one way intentionally, and NOT because his protection is breaking down. I don't think he's using it as a fake. There are multiple factors that influence where he positions himself. The poor protection has probably been the biggest factor these first 3 games. But, as we saw against WFT, Allen and Daboll had a plan to manipulate the pressure and get the ball out quicker. Josh's drifting out of the pocket was definitely part of that, I think.
Utah John Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Watch Allen's drifting and I think you'll see he often is giving himself a better angle for the pass. On the rocket to Sanders deep in the left end zone, if Allen doesn't move a yard or two to the left, the DB has a better angle at defending the pass. By moving left, Allen improved his angle.
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