Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If it was the call I saw he had a grip on the guys arm and swung him around by it i just re-watched it just now again in case I was wrong. He didn’t touch him. It looked like Spain tried to grab his arm, but totally whiffed and the defender came in at a weird angle. There was almost no contact between them at all. that was sort of emblematic of a lot of ticky tack offensive and defensive holds and illegal Contact penalties they called all night. Some were legit, but most were way too ticky tack, IMO.
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Both Mayfield and Herbert have far better talent around them, and protecting them, than what Burrow has dealt with. Yeah which is why things are probably going to be rougher for Burrow this year than either of them, though Herbert is probably at least neck and neck with Lamar if not out right QB3 in the AFC
The Frankish Reich Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I'd say he's right there with Mayfield he can get the job done but I don't know if I'd consider him really exceptional in any way. 9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I would add Baker Mayfield to that last group. Burrow is a reincarnation of Bengal's great Ken Anderson. The AFC is freaking loaded at QB. Both excellent points. Kenny Anderson was my favorite QB of his era.
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 Ugh.. 45 points needed 47..missed field goal and failed RedZone conversion too. Yikes lol , glad I don't bet a lot on games 😆. Jags suck royally
Wyobills89 Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 Logan Wilson had a good game for the Bengals. I really wish he was apart of this team. Mt other favorite cowboy besides Josh. 1
mannc Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: So ... where does Joe Burrow fit in the ranks of recent (2018 or later) 1st round QBs? Is it now Allen, Lamar, then Herbert/Burrow/Murray tied for 3rd? Depends what your criteria are. Best QB right now? Best QB to have for the next 10 years? I’d say, Allen, Herbert, Jackson, Burrow, Murray, but it’s real close. 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: Probably Trevor Lawrence's best game so far. He looked very comfortable. Gotta give Urban credit for a solid gameplan. 2
GunnerBill Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 Friday morning reflections: - Slow the horses on the Trevor Lawrence hate which was strong after last weekend. The kid is supremely talented. He is going to be just fine. The Jags still need to put more pieces around him but he had a real good night and hard to put any of this defeat on him. - I thought the Jags got the rough end of the penalty deal. Especially on that final drive. One of those hands to the face penalties felt very bogus and the shot of Urban on the sideline he looked bemused and furious in equal measure. That might have been the moment the penny dropped - no Buckeye Benefits anymore coach! - The reason the Bengals could get almost nothing going first half was because yet again - they couldn't protect Burrow. Nice adjustment at half time to go to the quick passing game, lots of slants and shallow crossers second half but this rather goes back to the debate around draft time.... Chase is a great receiver but second half he almost disappeared because the short game meant more Boyd out of the slot and use of the Tight End. The Bengals should have prioritised blocking over pass catching for me. - Think fair play to the Bengals defense which is much improved. I was quite harsh on Lou Anorumo last year as their DC but they are currently top 10 in yards and points per game given up without really making lots of big high profile additions. It is guys like Eli Apple and Trae Waynes, other people's trash and getting really solid play out of Logan Wilson and Akeem Gaither-Davis two mid-round linebackers from their 2020 draft class. - Still not sure Cincy are a playoff team as it stands but they could give Baltimore or Cleveland a shock loss or two this year that muddles up that playoff picture. Punchy team. If they can just get a couple of improvements on the offensive line and maybe one top level corner this team could make some noise next year. 4
Utah John Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Are you suggesting that Brady is going to be playing for 10 more years? 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Friday morning reflections: - Slow the horses on the Trevor Lawrence hate which was strong after last weekend. The kid is supremely talented. He is going to be just fine. The Jags still need to put more pieces around him but he had a real good night and hard to put any of this defeat on him. - I thought the Jags got the rough end of the penalty deal. Especially on that final drive. One of those hands to the face penalties felt very bogus and the shot of Urban on the sideline he looked bemused and furious in equal measure. That might have been the moment the penny dropped - no Buckeye Benefits anymore coach! - The reason the Bengals could get almost nothing going first half was because yet again - they couldn't protect Burrow. Nice adjustment at half time to go to the quick passing game, lots of slants and shallow crossers second half but this rather goes back to the debate around draft time.... Chase is a great receiver but second half he almost disappeared because the short game meant more Boyd out of the slot and use of the Tight End. The Bengals should have prioritised blocking over pass catching for me. - Think fair play to the Bengals defense which is much improved. I was quite harsh on Lou Anorumo last year as their DC but they are currently top 10 in yards and points per game given up without really making lots of big high profile additions. It is guys like Eli Apple and Trae Waynes, other people's trash and getting really solid play out of Logan Wilson and Akeem Gaither-Davis two mid-round linebackers from their 2020 draft class. - Still not sure Cincy are a playoff team as it stands but they could give Baltimore or Cleveland a shock loss or two this year that muddles up that playoff picture. Punchy team. If they can just get a couple of improvements on the offensive line and maybe one top level corner this team could make some noise next year. Nice points. I'd be delighted if the Bengals get good enough to give the Browns and the Ravens a loss each. No telling who the Bills' competition for first seed will be, or whether we'll need help like that.
Utah John Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 Lots of good young QBs right now, but it's still gonna be rough for the teams who haven't landed their guy yet. Some of those good young QBs are going to have to endure a few years of misery before winning. Zach Wilson for example will have to get beat up for four years with the Jets before getting to go to an NFL team. 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Are you saying footballs can defy the laws of physics? They needed to CGI the late Carl Sagan into the broadcast to do his 'apple pie - atom' analogy.
DrDawkinstein Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Utah John said: Are you suggesting that Brady is going to be playing for 10 more years? That's the joke in that meme.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Send Jacksonville down the the CFL. We're 'up'...geographically. 😁 1
mannc Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Friday morning reflections: - Slow the horses on the Trevor Lawrence hate which was strong after last weekend. The kid is supremely talented. He is going to be just fine. The Jags still need to put more pieces around him but he had a real good night and hard to put any of this defeat on him. - I thought the Jags got the rough end of the penalty deal. Especially on that final drive. One of those hands to the face penalties felt very bogus and the shot of Urban on the sideline he looked bemused and furious in equal measure. That might have been the moment the penny dropped - no Buckeye Benefits anymore coach! - The reason the Bengals could get almost nothing going first half was because yet again - they couldn't protect Burrow. Nice adjustment at half time to go to the quick passing game, lots of slants and shallow crossers second half but this rather goes back to the debate around draft time.... Chase is a great receiver but second half he almost disappeared because the short game meant more Boyd out of the slot and use of the Tight End. The Bengals should have prioritised blocking over pass catching for me. - Think fair play to the Bengals defense which is much improved. I was quite harsh on Lou Anorumo last year as their DC but they are currently top 10 in yards and points per game given up without really making lots of big high profile additions. It is guys like Eli Apple and Trae Waynes, other people's trash and getting really solid play out of Logan Wilson and Akeem Gaither-Davis two mid-round linebackers from their 2020 draft class. - Still not sure Cincy are a playoff team as it stands but they could give Baltimore or Cleveland a shock loss or two this year that muddles up that playoff picture. Punchy team. If they can just get a couple of improvements on the offensive line and maybe one top level corner this team could make some noise next year. Bengals’ o-line looked awful, esp in the first half, but I doubt Sewell would have changed that. They were getting over-run. Chase is a weapon that can be moved all over the field to cause matchup problems for the defense and he catches the ball even when he’s not “open”. The Bengals made the right pick. BTW, where was Tee Higgins last night? 1
GunnerBill Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Bengals’ o-line looked awful, esp in the first half, but I doubt Sewell would have changed that. They were getting over-run. Chase is a weapon that can be moved all over the field to cause matchup problems for the defense and he catches the ball even when he’s not “open”. The Bengals made the right pick. BTW, where was Tee Higgins last night? Tee was hurt. He and Jessie Bates both missed the game injured. I am not going to tell you that Sewell has been dominant off the bat for Detroit and so would have immediately made that tire fire line better, but he has had a solid start to his career and I still think that is the way they should have gone. You have to protect your Quarterback. We have seen already this season here how Josh got unsettled by chaos in front of him. We saw it for both Burrow and Lawrence at times las night. For me it was the wrong pick and my view hasn't changed one bit. No knock on Chase. He is a very talented player. But Cincinnati needed to make a determined effort to improve that line.
mannc Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Tee was hurt. He and Jessie Bates both missed the game injured. I am not going to tell you that Sewell has been dominant off the bat for Detroit and so would have immediately made that tire fire line better, but he has had a solid start to his career and I still think that is the way they should have gone. You have to protect your Quarterback. We have seen already this season here how Josh got unsettled by chaos in front of him. We saw it for both Burrow and Lawrence at times las night. For me it was the wrong pick and my view hasn't changed one bit. No knock on Chase. He is a very talented player. But Cincinnati needed to make a determined effort to improve that line. The Bengals drafted three offensive linemen this year (including their second round pick) and their starting LT was a top 10 pick in 2019. Chase is going to be a problem for opposing defenses for a long time. He was the right pick. 1
GunnerBill Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, mannc said: The Bengals drafted three offensive linemen this year (including their second round pick) and their starting LT was a top 10 pick in 2019. Chase is going to be a problem for opposing defenses for a long time. He was the right pick. None of them are Penei Sewell. Chase will be a problem if they can keep Burrow upright. At the moment, they can't.
mannc Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: None of them are Penei Sewell. Chase will be a problem if they can keep Burrow upright. At the moment, they can't. I haven’t seen the Bengals until last night. Was the pass pro that bad in their first three games, or did Jags’ D just have a good game?
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