machine gun kelly Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: "BB 62 - 74". Is that Belicheats record without Marcia? Yes, and was on GMFB this morning. They also have his record only with the Pats without TB. It was a losing record. 1
RobbRiddick Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, bobobonators said: I really agree with this. I dont understand how Pats fans can be angry at BB. It defies logic. No wonder athletes and coaches many times get fed up with fans. I think the ones who are angry are the ones who became fans post 2000. So all they've known is winning and therefore see winning as their right. Any fan who experienced Dick McPherson would never act like that toward a guy who won them 6 championships 1
Patrick Duffy Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Why are you guys comparing what one fan does to a whole fan base? 2nd. this statement here is completely wrong, have you spoken to every NE fan, no you obviously haven't because there are plenty of fans post Drew Bledsoe that's been fans since the 85 bears beat them down in the SB. It's like every other fan base. I get your point, but it's more than one fan. And before you say it, yes I agree every fan base has these types of "fans", however with that said, it's been brought up many, many occasions by lots of people that Pats fans (not every single one of course, but enough it's been noticed and talked about) come off as spoiled and unappreciative. Pats fans got to experience a level of success over a very rare long period of time I guess it went to their heads? 1
Patrick Duffy Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I think the ones who are angry are the ones who became fans post 2000. So all they've known is winning and therefore see winning as their right. Any fan who experienced Dick McPherson would never act like that toward a guy who won them 6 championships Likely the case for majority. I specifically know of 6 "fans" of whom back before Brady said they were fans of another team(s). Then specifically after Brady's 2nd SB all of a sudden 3 of those 6 were Pats fans. Made no sense. The other 3 jumped ship when the dynasty crap started Edited September 29, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins
Ghost_002! Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I get your point, but it's more than one fan. And before you say it, yes I agree every fan base has these types of "fans", however with that said, it's been brought up many, many occasions by lots of people that Pats fans (not every single one of course, but enough it's been noticed and talked about) come off as spoiled and unappreciative. Pats fans got to experience a level of success over a very rare long period of time I guess it went to their heads? Pretty much that is it though. Some fans can be irrational no matter what the laundry is. Like some already said, Bills lose a game and there's plenty of fans taken shots at the HC and Offensive coordinator. Edited September 29, 2021 by Ghost_002!
teef Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 i still think there's no greater crime than a pats fan from wny. unfortunately there's a group of fans in their 30s who fit this bill. 1
Patrick Duffy Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Pretty much that is it though. Some fans can be irrational no matter what the laundry is. Like some already said, Bills lose a game and there's plenty of fans taken shots at the HC and Offensive coordinator. Yes that is very true. However to me the difference and pretty big difference is that BB is basically the biggest factor other than Brady in playing a part for 6 SB wins. Also the other SB appearances they came up short, but were AFC Champs. imo it's just a very large amount of success there and it's a crap move to pull that nonsense like they did with it being only the 2nd year moved from Brady and attempting to develop a rookie QB. I mean it's like they expect stuff like that not to matter and should still be Championship caliber regardless.
Ghost_002! Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Yes that is very true. However to me the difference and pretty big difference is that BB is basically the biggest factor other than Brady in playing a part for 6 SB wins. Also the other SB appearances they came up short, but were AFC Champs. imo it's just a very large amount of success there and it's a crap move to pull that nonsense like they did with it being only the 2nd year moved from Brady and attempting to develop a rookie QB. I mean it's like they expect stuff like that not to matter and should still be Championship caliber regardless. It's someone trolling BB like what you guys are doing. I am sure if this was you guys(with the same success).... a group of you would be upset that McD and the Bills let Allen go to another franchise. I mean BB does have his enemies up here too. Edited September 29, 2021 by Ghost_002!
Patrick Duffy Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: It's someone trolling BB like what you guys are doing. I am sure if this was you guys(with the same success).... a group of you would be upset that McD and the Bills let Allen go to another franchise. I mean BB does have his enemies up here too. I'm sure it would be a few. I wouldn't though, or couldn't. One should expect players to move on eventually, it's part of the NFL. Speaking for myself, if Bills won 6 SB's with Allen and if he's a Bill for as long as Brady was (which is rare), I'd be proud and appreciative for the time he was a Bill along with the HC. I wouldn't give up on a 6 time SB HC 2 yrs after Allen left just because things are in a rebuild. Yeah, I couldn't Edited September 29, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins 1
dorquemada Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I'm sure it would be a few. I wouldn't though, or couldn't. One should expect players to move on eventually, it's part of the NFL. Speaking for myself, if Bills won 6 SB's with Allen and if he's a Bill for as long as Brady was (which is rare), I'd be proud and appreciative for the time he was a Bill along with the HC. I wouldn't give up on a 6 time SB HC 2 yrs after Allen left just because things are in a rebuild. Yeah, I couldn't At that point if you continued thinking it was the coach, not the QB, i guess you can be excused for the rest of your bad and wrong opinions
Patrick Duffy Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, dorquemada said: At that point if you continued thinking it was the coach, not the QB, i guess you can be excused for the rest of your bad and wrong opinions Well I think the majority of ppl, fans all around knew without Brady they struggle. I mean whatever the case, my main point is I would be a little more appreciative of the success that no team any time soon or maybe ever will do or surpass what they did instead of putting up a billboard talking ***** about the coach 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 4 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: "BB 62 - 74". Is that Belicheats record without Marcia? That has to be it, or when it was put up as he is currently 63-75. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 4 hours ago, devldog131 said: The natives are growing restless... Patriots Fan Trolls Bill Belichick with Billboard on Route 1 I was listening to 98.5 The Sports Hub yesterday and the first trickle of Belichick vitriol is starting to filter its way to the air.
DrDawkinstein Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I'm sure it would be a few. I wouldn't though, or couldn't. One should expect players to move on eventually, it's part of the NFL. Speaking for myself, if Bills won 6 SB's with Allen and if he's a Bill for as long as Brady was (which is rare), I'd be proud and appreciative for the time he was a Bill along with the HC. I wouldn't give up on a 6 time SB HC 2 yrs after Allen left just because things are in a rebuild. Yeah, I couldn't If a coach were to bring us even ONE Super Bowl victory... heck, he could bang my wife for all I care. Let alone SIX!?! He could kick my dog while banging my wife. And afterwards the only billboard I would put up would say "Thanks for the Lombardi Trophy!" 1
Patrick Duffy Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: If a coach were to bring us even ONE Super Bowl victory... heck, he could bang my wife for all I care. Let alone SIX!?! He could kick my dog while banging my wife. And afterwards the only billboard I would put up would say "Thanks for the Lombardi Trophy!" Could not agree more! Hell I can't begin to imagine the feeling of 6 rings. Honestly it's a strong possibility I would have had a heart attack, stroke, or something that would have killed me from the overwhelming excitement from it and the partying. lol 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, teef said: the guy was a part of one of the biggest dynasties in all of sports, and the fan base turns in the first quarter of his second year without brady. seems about right. I wonder what Dick Jauron would have gotten? 🤔
JohnNord Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Real McNasty said: Ammusing I guess as it sums up a large majority of Patriot bandwagon fans. I highly doubt if McD, Beane and Allen brought us 6 SB championships between 2002-2019 we would be A$$hats to McD/Beane post Allen. Probably the same Patriots fans that called Belichick a genuine for drafting “the next Brady” in Mac Jones 4 weeks ago. Seriously though what’s the point of this - do they want BB fired? 1 1
bobobonators Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: I think the ones who are angry are the ones who became fans post 2000. So all they've known is winning and therefore see winning as their right. Any fan who experienced Dick McPherson would never act like that toward a guy who won them 6 championships Even with that though..there is winning and then there is winning. What the Pats did, even if you were a fan starting 2000, is unmatched. What is there to be bitter about?
Beast Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Any fan who experienced Dick McPherson would never act like that toward a guy who won them 6 championships They're not treating that guy bad at all. In fact, they hold Tom Brady in high esteem. 4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I believe we will see what Belicheck is made of this week. I am guessing he would do anything in his power to beat Brady and slow down this narrative. Since Belichick is a below average HC without Tom Brady as his QB, good luck with that! Edited September 29, 2021 by Beast
Patrick Duffy Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Probably the same Patriots fans that called Belichick a genuine for drafting “the next Brady” in Mac Jones 4 weeks ago. Seriously though what’s the point of this - do they want BB fired? Lol, I could not have a legit conversation or take anyone seriously if they really believed that. I would totally take it as a joke if someone said that lol, I don't think any QB will be the "next Brady" and accomplish what he has in the foreseeable future, maybe ever. Someone may get multiple SB's but it's going to take a REALLY, REALLY, special player to get as many rings as Brady has.
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