PromoTheRobot Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, TBBills said: Hooray, they are just above rock bottom!!! The first step to respectability is getting out of rock bottom. The Sabres can't just buy their way out with free agents. They have to develop their picks. It takes time. Bringing up the last ten years doesn't make things go faster now. 1
BillsPride12 Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 22 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Kim wants to be done with the Sabres. Terry won't sell. He loves hockey no matter what the poorly informed in this thread will have you believe. Where are you hearing this?
BADOLBILZ Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Absolutely WRONG! Buffalo is a hockey town and belongs in the NHL. Any franchise we let leave is gone forever. I have watched every single second of Sabres hockey this year, and pretty much every year. If all you do is check the scores and standings it's easy to think they are a basket case. But actually they are where the Bills were in 2018. They blew up the old core and are cultivating a new one. They are a very young team and players that need to develop. But I can tell you this team is already much better than the s##t show they were last year under Krueger. In many games they are playing well only to screw up in their end and give up a goal. Maybe they are inching towards having a fringe playoff roster in a couple years.........but it's a bit difficult to envision a cup contender coming out of this in 2024 (as the Bills became a SB contender in 2020). Are the Lightning, Panthers and Leafs suddenly getting much worse while the Sabres somehow vault to the top without star power? Are the Sabres even ahead of the Senators in their re-builds? And that's just their own division. To me, your optimism is like that of a NY Jets fan who thinks that their current trajectory places them atop the AFC East in 2024. No context. 1 1
PromoTheRobot Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Where are you hearing this? Going around the rumor mill
BADOLBILZ Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: The first step to respectability is getting out of rock bottom. The Sabres can't just buy their way out with free agents. They have to develop their picks. It takes time. Bringing up the last ten years doesn't make things go faster now. 10 years ago is a better starting point to describe the current Sabres to the Bills. The current Sabres are about where the 2013 Bills were...........the Buddy Nix era..........it will take some more losing and coaching and GM changes.........another iteration of a tear down in 3-4 years.........and nobody on the current roster will probably be with the team when they get into cup contention again in 2030. If everything goes right this time, that is. 😉
eball Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 If the Sabres had legitimate goaltending they’d probably be a fringe playoff team right now. They have a ways to go, but goaltending has absolutely held them back — it’s horrid. 1 1
Doc Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 The Sabres need a goalie like the Bills needed a QB.
Helpmenow Posted February 27, 2022 Posted February 27, 2022 Tax write off for Pegula with Sabres 1 hour ago, eball said: If the Sabres had legitimate goaltending they’d probably be a fringe playoff team right now. They have a ways to go, but goaltending has absolutely held them back — it’s horrid. If not the defense it’s the wingers.
Nextmanup Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Helpmenow said: Tax write off for Pegula with Sabres If not the defense it’s the wingers. Goaltending was actually pretty solid to start the season, then we had some injury problems and it was much more up and down. We are nowhere close to a fringe playoff team however, even if we had Dom in his prime. Among many other problems, we are dead last (league wide) in face-off wins. 1
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 10:55 AM, Nextmanup said: "We're a mess." "Dave est magané!" 12 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: But actually they are where the Bills were in 2018. Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress. 1
Helpmenow Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 I feel bad for the ones who go to the games. The fans just want a winning team and have been waiting and waiting. The fan base has been getting screwed for along time.
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 8 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: "Dave est magané!" Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress. I know fans like to blame Kim Pegula because she’s the team president but I’ve never seen any evidence that Kim is involved in making any hockey decisions. Terry, on the other hand, seems very involved in the hockey ops. He’s the one that sits in every scouting + free agent meeting and gives his opinion. I think Terry is a bigger issue than Kim. But Both just need to stay out of the decision making for the Sabres IMO.
Jauronimo Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 21 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Where are you hearing this? Heard this at the home opener tailgate from a member of the Associated Press that covers the Bills and Sabres. 1
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 Boy, it’s a good thing Botterill just willingly gave up this kid’s draft rights instead of signing him to an entry level deal, huh? All t would’ve cost was a contract spot. Not like we need good players we drafted or anything. 😡🤬 Botterill was pretty terrible. But part of the issue is also all the turnover in the front office and scouting staff.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Heard this at the home opener tailgate from a member of the Associated Press that covers the Bills and Sabres. Just say John Wawrow. 10 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: "Dave est magané!" Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress. The Sabres are run by Kevin Adams and Jason Karmanos. 19 hours ago, Doc said: The Sabres need a goalie like the Bills needed a QB. They actually need to learn how to play in their end. How to defend and how to leave the zone without turning the puck over. Edited February 28, 2022 by PromoTheRobot
BillsFanNC Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale? I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be.
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale? I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be. It was reported that Tom Golisano put a no-move provision in the sale of the Sabres. https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=6087856 not sure if that applies to future owners too, but if not I don’t see why the Pegulas couldn’t make it a provision of the sale like Golisano did. I also don’t know if Gary Bettman would let the Sabres leave Buffalo anyway. Say what you want about him but he shows true loyalty to NHL markets. He’s already fought for the Sabres to stay in Buffalo. If not for him they would’ve been relocated after the bankruptcy (I was pissed when Buffalo fans booed him at the 2015 draft in Buffalo). He won’t even allow the Coyotes to leave Arizona despite their attendance issues and not having an NHL arena to play in starting next season. They’ll be playing in a 2000 seat state college arena. 1 1
K-9 Posted March 1, 2022 Posted March 1, 2022 9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I know fans like to blame Kim Pegula because she’s the team president but I’ve never seen any evidence that Kim is involved in making any hockey decisions. Terry, on the other hand, seems very involved in the hockey ops. He’s the one that sits in every scouting + free agent meeting and gives his opinion. I think Terry is a bigger issue than Kim. But Both just need to stay out of the decision making for the Sabres IMO. But Terry has experience as a (non skating) hockey coach. 1
Helpmenow Posted March 1, 2022 Posted March 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Classic article. Boy I had hopes 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale? I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be. The best thing Pegula could do is being just the bills owner
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