Slippery Rubber Mats Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 6:27 PM, ScottLaw said: These last two games he’s been great according to a few posters here…. Actually better than last year😅 Expand Meh. Obviously he hasn't been great. But improvement isn't always linear so taking the long view still seems appropriate in Allen's case. 1
LeGOATski Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 1:06 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Paywall. Expand It just wants you to sign in. You can simply say "no thanks" to the subscription.
nedboy7 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 6:27 PM, ScottLaw said: These last two games he’s been great according to a few posters here…. Actually better than last year😅 Expand I was so disgusted by the 35-0 win last week I almost made the move to the NE side. Still considering it. I am so over JA and his footwork. 1 4
billybrew1 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 6:18 PM, Utah John said: Well I hope this is the correct view. It could be the wrong view, unfortunately, and we won't know until we see how Allen's performance changes through time. You can't look at two days of stock market changes and declare that the losses we just saw are a blip. What are the fundamental reasons for the drop? Looking closely at the fundamentals gives a much clearer picture of what's going on. For this the opposite of the zoomed out view is needed. Allen won't suddenly get over what ails him just by assuming he will. He more than anyone needs to look very closely at what's happening, and work hard to correct whatever flaws he finds. Based on past performance, that's exactly what will happen. But you know what they say about past performance. As I said, I hope your view is right. Expand What is interesting is, I don't know how common this is? Is it common? Is it rare? JA17 was doing everything right last season. He had his mechanics down pat. He had the vision. How do you master that over a whole season and then lose it the next season? I saw a quote from Josh saying he is playing well in practice. So, it is just the games. How do you completely lose your mechanics and technique in a game? The crowd? He also lost his vision and decision making ability the last two weeks. It strikes me as very unusual. I guess there has never been a Josh Allen before so he should have unique problems as well..... i think the question is: Can Josh overcome his nerves? He's just got to calm down.... Master his techniques and go thru his reads....Easy Peasy, right? Right? LOL, I think he does it, I just don't know when. The next question about Josh Allen is can he improve from last season? Because that is what he needs to do to beat Mahomes. Before this season, I though for certain that he would improve from last season. He's still young, he still has Daboll, He has E. Sanders now. The offense which was new to each other is still coming together.... I could see Josh taking another whole step forward to get on Mahomes level. It sez here that not only does Josh find last season's game, It sez at some point this season, (hopefully it is in the playoffs) he takes another step forward. I can see him getting better at seeing the rush and avoiding it. i can see Josh becoming almost automatic when we need a TD. Almost automatic from inside the red-zone. I think our backs, Singletary and Moss, help Josh to reach another level. Not only with their excellent blocking but being another option that Josh trusts both running and receiving. I've been saying since we've had the backs that they are NFL good and they are. I also have been watching Ford. And what Ford brings is toughness this offense maybe lacked a bit. He helps the run game and gives Josh confidence in him. It is going to happen.
WhoTom Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) On 9/23/2021 at 7:41 PM, billybrew1 said: I don't know how common this is? Is it common? Is it rare? JA17 was doing everything right last season. He had his mechanics down pat. He had the vision. How do you master that over a whole season and then lose it the next season? Expand It's not rare - it's called a slump. Everyone has them, and most professionals recover. I realize Josh hasn't played up to last year's standard, but I'm confident that he'll get over it soon. He's shown us plenty of examples of how he learns from mistakes and moves forward. He'll do it again. Like Aaron Rodgers (who also has slumps) said: R-E-L-A-X. Edited September 23, 2021 by WhoTom
nedboy7 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 8:28 PM, ScottLaw said: Nice….You can’t separate the blow out win from Josh Allen’s play? Since they blew out the Dolphins Allen must’ve played awesome? Expand No I think he has regressed to a point of being the weak link. It’s time to start the tubisky experiment. 2
0017 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 9:58 PM, ScottLaw said: Hun? Who suggested that? Expand I might have 😬 purely as a overreaction to losing to the Steelers.
QCity Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 2:00 PM, Draconator said: "Every snap he takes still seems to generate a greater range of outcomes than a Choose Your Own Adventure novel, and maybe that will never completely change. Expand This is a great quote. Nice read. 1 1
Niagara Dude Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 12:43 PM, dave mcbride said: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/sports/football/josh-allen-buffalo-bills.html Have at it. Expand Bills should have got him another top target so defences cannot just take away Diggs, Bills need better quality weapons
Don Otreply Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 2:30 PM, WhoTom said: What's "click bait" about it? The title is descriptive and the article is researched and well-written. Expand Some folk are a feard of the New York Times…, 1
Richard Noggin Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 12:43 PM, dave mcbride said: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/sports/football/josh-allen-buffalo-bills.html Have at it. Expand You don't want to offer an opening salvo? A brief summary or objective analysis? Not even a hot take? Nothing?
Richard Noggin Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 2:30 PM, WhoTom said: What's "click bait" about it? The title is descriptive and the article is researched and well-written. Expand There is no title until one clicks on it. While I agree that this is not a sensationalized, superficial piece of sports reportage, the OP's approach of just dropping a link without comment except to invite the anticipated engagement, is, in fact, clickbaiting. 1
newcam2012 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 1:09 PM, JaCrispy said: Kinda weird that that article had to come out now when Josh hasn’t been very accurate... Expand People seem to ignore and make excuses. On 9/23/2021 at 1:23 PM, chris heff said: Did you read the whole article? Addresses that in second to last paragraph. ”Allen, though, hasn’t made entirely right decisions so far. After losing to Pittsburgh in Week 1, he suggested he was struggling with his footwork, and despite rebounding to thrash Miami in Week 2, Allen still committed what Pro Football Focus calls turnover-worthy plays — involving poor ball security or passes that have a strong chance of being intercepted — on a career-high 10.8 percent of his snaps.” Expand Funny how when regular people on here say similar things they get negative feedback. Those are some pretty poor evaluations and feedback from the Bills "franchise QB." Yet, some on here are saying Allen is playing better? Go figure...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 1:06 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Paywall. Expand I get that good content costs money to create. I just can't afford 20 news subscriptions. They really need to invent an "EZPass" for browsers that allows you to read stories ala carte and pay as you go. 1
newcam2012 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 1:41 PM, nedboy7 said: I dont think the rest of the world is ready to give up on him like some people on here. “I think there’s two kinds of players in this league: guys that get figured out and guys that figure it out,” Allen said in an interview after a recent practice. “And I was always going to be the guy who figured it out.” Allen’s evolution to this lofty moment toppled a principle of football doctrine: that quarterbacks can’t enhance their accuracy. After selecting Allen in 2018, Bills General Manager Brandon Beane was told that he had just taken a tight end. He knew otherwise. At his job interview the year before, after Buffalo’s 16th consecutive season without making the playoffs, Beane noted that the New England Patriots dynasty had been sustained in part by their three fellow A.F.C. East teams, which regularly changed coaches and front offices. Unseating the Patriots, he said, demanded time and patience, and as he scouted quarterback prospects before the draft he resolved to invest both in Allen. On the farmstead where Allen grew up in Firebaugh, Calif., a small community about 40 miles northwest of Fresno, his family has long nurtured cantaloupe, cotton and wheat — and, more recently, pistachios. Much like Allen himself, their trees need years of cultivation before producing a yield. Allen’s progression from imprecise college quarterback to N.F.L. star took an honest assessment of the transformation he required. “When you lie to yourself, the only person you hurt is yourself,” Allen said. “Being completely honest and understanding that there’s things I need to work on, I’m not afraid to reach out and ask somebody for help.” Expand Players can say whatever they want. I don't put much stock in it. Show me on the field. Through two games Allen's has played poorly.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) On 9/24/2021 at 2:25 AM, newcam2012 said: Players can say whatever they want. I don't put much stock in it. Show me on the field. Through two games Allen's has played poorly. Expand Poorly or less than perfect? I think expectations are so high an adequate performance is deemed unacceptable. Some of the greatest QBs of all time have had "bad" stretches. Edited September 24, 2021 by PromoTheRobot 1
Richard Noggin Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 2:30 AM, PromoTheRobot said: Poorly or less than perfect? I think expectations are so high and adequate performance is deemed unacceptable. Some of the greatest QBs of all time have had "bad" stretches. Expand He didn't play well enough to win in week one. He played well enough to win in week two. And, of course, he can play much better than that, and will need to eventually for this team to reach its goal of a championship.
nedboy7 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) On 9/24/2021 at 2:25 AM, newcam2012 said: Players can say whatever they want. I don't put much stock in it. Show me on the field. Through two games Allen's has played poorly. Expand i was just posting interesting parts of the article. You are free to freak out over a couple of games. Edited September 24, 2021 by nedboy7
nedboy7 Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 2:16 AM, newcam2012 said: People seem to ignore and make excuses. Funny how when regular people on here say similar things they get negative feedback. Those are some pretty poor evaluations and feedback from the Bills "franchise QB." Yet, some on here are saying Allen is playing better? Go figure... Expand You think they should have pulled the article cause he had a couple poor games? LOL
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