Week 3: WFT at Bills

[YoloinOhio]

57 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Well, given that we’re facing Washington, it’s worth mentioning that he played well in a quite windy game vs them in 2019. Average 18 mph winds with gusts higher than that, and a passer rating of 110.4 (70 percent completion rate). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911030buf.htm

 

He also played well vs Denver in similar conditions. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911240buf.htm

The Rams game last year was also very windy 

[uninja]

1 hour ago, twist_to_open said:

Not really the same thing, but when my son played college football, he ate 6-8 PBJs a day. Helped keep his weight, high protein and gives you energy.

Yeah energy density on a PBJ is solid, checks all the boxes for protein, carbs and fat. Just laughing to myself thinking that halftime for adult football players is more like my kiddos snack time than a solid strategy check for adjustments going into the back half. 

[twist_to_open]

8 minutes ago, uninja said:

Yeah energy density on a PBJ is solid, checks all the boxes for protein, carbs and fat. Just laughing to myself thinking that halftime for adult football players is more like my kiddos snack time than a solid strategy check for adjustments going into the back half. 

I agree, but Im sure he has it stored in a Sponge Bob sandwich bag tho!

Edited September 25, 2021 by twist_to_open

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Did someone say PB&J?

 

 

[RichRiderBills]

3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Well, given that we’re facing Washington, it’s worth mentioning that he played well in a quite windy game vs them in 2019. Average 18 mph winds with gusts higher than that, and a passer rating of 110.4 (70 percent completion rate). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911030buf.htm

 

He also played well vs Denver in similar conditions. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201911240buf.htm

 

The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens.

 

Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. 

[dave mcbride]

54 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens.

 

Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. 

In that 2019 Denver game, the difference in ability to handle wind between allen and the denver qbs was stark.

[YoloinOhio]

58 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens.

 

Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. 

It affects all QBs, it just affects weak armed QBs more 

[Dr. K]

It's amazing that nobody before me has ever noticed the similarity between WFT and WTF.

[GoBills808]

3 hours ago, uninja said:

Yeah energy density on a PBJ is solid, checks all the boxes for protein, carbs and fat. Just laughing to myself thinking that halftime for adult football players is more like my kiddos snack time than a solid strategy check for adjustments going into the back half. 

The NBA has been doing it for some time now

 

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/presents18931717/the-nba-secret-addiction

[sherpa]

2 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens.

 

Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. 

 

It always amazes me how fans misinterpret basic aerodynamics.

Once a football leaves the quarterbacks hands, it is "in the atmosphere," and subjected to the same laws that all flying objects are.

If a "strong armed" quarterback provides increased velocity at release, the ball will be subjected to those influences for less time, but the same influences.

Works the same in aviation. Winds have the same effect on 777 as they do on a Cessna 172.

Stronger arms, measured by release velocity, simply provide less time for those effects.

 

One caveat. The spin rate of the football effects stability. Less stability results in greater ball wobble, and that subjects the ball to greater parasite drag as opposed to a tight spiral.

Ergo, a tight spiral is less effected by that type of drag.

[YoloinOhio]

40 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

It always amazes me how fans misinterpret basic aerodynamics.

Once a football leaves the quarterbacks hands, it is "in the atmosphere," and subjected to the same laws that all flying objects are.

If a "strong armed" quarterback provides increased velocity at release, the ball will be subjected to those influences for less time, but the same influences.

Works the same in aviation. Winds have the same effect on 777 as they do on a Cessna 172.

Stronger arms, measured by release velocity, simply provide less time for those effects.

 

One caveat. The spin rate of the football effects stability. Less stability results in greater ball wobble, and that subjects the ball to greater parasite drag as opposed to a tight spiral.

Ergo, a tight spiral is less effected by that type of drag.

[YoloinOhio]

 

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[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, Dr. K said:

It's amazing that nobody before me has ever noticed the similarity between WFT and WTF.

WFT are you talking about?  😕 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warcodered]

8 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

🤔 is that good?

 

[Patrick Duffy]

4 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

The real myth is that there is any good down field QB in bad wind. That strong arm QBs can over power gusts. That's when you should run the ball or toss a lot of high percentage screens.

 

Look at the old K gun games and you wont see Jimbo slaying the wind. 

Yup I agree, when conditions are like that it pretty much forces you to adjust the game plan to an extent. 

[Justin C]

I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a disaster.

[jcamm1966]

16 minutes ago, Justin C said:

I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a disaster.

 

It's gonna make the southern border crossing look organized