Bangarang Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 3:10 PM, nucci said: They still count, just like Allen's rushing yards Expand Obviously they still count but that wasn’t the point. They weren’t gashed in the conventional sense of handing the ball off with RBs running through gaping holes. A QB scrambling outside of the pocket isn’t necessarily on the DL.
Paul Costa Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) No they were RPO’s Bills are pretty good at running those too. Do you get bonus points for running a RB between the tackles? Jones wasn’t scrambling that’s the point 😮 Edited September 24, 2021 by Paul Costa
NewEra Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 7:34 PM, zow2 said: Yes in 2019 on windy days vs Philly and Baltimore in Orchard Park, Allen was lousy and the opposing QB's had better games. Last year in not ideal weather games vs. New England and KC, he was not all that good. So there's my concern. Expand Those that aren’t worried in the least are oblivious.
Patrick Duffy Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 8:41 PM, NewEra said: Those that aren’t worried in the least are oblivious. Expand Yeah it's kinda weird. It was said that he would be able to throw in that better than others due to his arm strength. It's been giving him trouble so far though.
Norcalbillsfan Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 I think the wft is better than the spread, but with that being said brisset and tua were absolutely running for their lives against our rush. I think we give Heineke a tough day if we carry that over. Heineke isn't a scrub but he's definitely not good enough to avoid the rush and beat you like a lamar or mahomes. Really love to see josh do some play action get comfortable with some easy throws.
CuseBill Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 7:34 PM, zow2 said: Yes in 2019 on windy days vs Philly and Baltimore in Orchard Park, Allen was lousy and the opposing QB's had better games. Last year in not ideal weather games vs. New England and KC, he was not all that good. So there's my concern. Expand Thank you for that scientific, statistically based analysis.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 7:40 PM, The Wiz said: Happy to see Gabe back to full participant. Feel like he's been missing. Expand he needs to Be getting a lot of the targets going to E Sanders. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 2:31 PM, Bangarang said: Half of those yards came from Jones though Expand Still count 1
The Firebaugh Kid Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 1:33 AM, YoloinOhio said: I’ll see it when I believe it Expand It is pretty cool that their quarterback drinks fine european lager in green bottles that smell like skunky weed.
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2021 Author Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 12:07 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: he needs to Be getting a lot of the targets going to E Sanders. Expand If defenses keep bracketing diggs and beasely the targets will be there for both of them plus Knox 1
Bangarang Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 12:25 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Still count Expand I’ve already addressed this. Of course they still count. But the original point was criticizing the DL for the amount of rushing yards. My argument is that it’s hard to put all those yards solely on the DL considering more than half of them were from Jones running. If a DL pushes the pocket and forces a QB to scramble and pick up 40 yards with his legs are we going to say the DL got gashed?
Patrick Duffy Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 12:39 AM, Bangarang said: If a DL pushes the pocket and forces a QB to scramble and pick up 40 yards with his legs are we going to say the DL got gashed? Expand I agree, I mean it happens all the time. A QB will be pressured with the WR's covered and will get loose. In the end they still say "Bills defense or DL gave up how ever many yards rushing" But yeah, I agree you can't blame the DL like that and just say they got gashed.
Stank_Nasty Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 12:39 AM, Bangarang said: I’ve already addressed this. Of course they still count. But the original point was criticizing the DL for the amount of rushing yards. My argument is that it’s hard to put all those yards solely on the DL considering more than half of them were from Jones running. If a DL pushes the pocket and forces a QB to scramble and pick up 40 yards with his legs are we going to say the DL got gashed? Expand Not only that but Barkley had a 40 yard scamper and the other 12 carries went for 16 yds…. Allen’s arm needs to get right…. like yesterday.
Patrick Duffy Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 12:47 AM, Stank_Nasty said: Not only that but Barkley had a 40 yard scamper and the other 12 carries went for 16 yds…. Allen’s arm needs to get right…. like yesterday. Expand Feel like it's a good chance he gets it going this game. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 12:39 AM, Bangarang said: I’ve already addressed this. Of course they still count. But the original point was criticizing the DL for the amount of rushing yards. My argument is that it’s hard to put all those yards solely on the DL considering more than half of them were from Jones running. If a DL pushes the pocket and forces a QB to scramble and pick up 40 yards with his legs are we going to say the DL got gashed? Expand Thought they were RPOs not scrambles for the most part
YattaOkasan Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 12:39 AM, Bangarang said: I’ve already addressed this. Of course they still count. But the original point was criticizing the DL for the amount of rushing yards. My argument is that it’s hard to put all those yards solely on the DL considering more than half of them were from Jones running. If a DL pushes the pocket and forces a QB to scramble and pick up 40 yards with his legs are we going to say the DL got gashed? Expand I can see your point but if the DL doesn’t rush with contain in mind it is on them. I blame the DL for how Murray and tannehill tore us up last year.
The Wiz Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) On 9/25/2021 at 12:07 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: he needs to Be getting a lot of the targets going to E Sanders. Expand I hope you like me quoting you as much as I do. Though this picture is kinda meh Edited September 25, 2021 by The Wiz 1
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 1:44 AM, The Wiz said: I hope you like me quoting you as much as I do. Though this picture is kinda meh Expand I like it, but I set you up too well!
Chandler#81 Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 1:28 AM, ScottLaw said: It’s also weird that the media and fans alike talk about him being able to play in the wind and bad conditions because of his strong arm when in all honestly the games he has played in this conditions he’s been bad…. The myth of Allen being some sort of good bad weather QB grows greater by the day. Expand Ha! Myth. That’s rich! The kid made national news, quarterbacking no less than at Wyoming, a polar outpost if ever there was one. So much so, he was a Top 10 pick we had to dismantle an entire team to garner enough Draft capital to move up from playoff status to land. No one thinks he can stand in the teeth of 50 mph wind in blizzard conditions and complete 70% while throwing for 400 yards. But I’ll take him over ANY other QB in that scenario. 1 2
Thurman#1 Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) On 9/24/2021 at 5:05 PM, NewEra said: Calf injury last week. Hurts his groin while stretching….. who would’ve thought. In his career, prior to this year, he played in 108 games. He’s missed 4 games. after sitting out a year. He’s missed 1 of 2 and has two reported injuries already. Expand So, you're saying he's missed a game? Wow, that's really shocking. I know no other players miss a game, so we should really be deeply concerned about this. Also critical and hateful. I personally am sharpening the tines of my pitchfork as I write. Edited September 25, 2021 by Thurman#1
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