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18 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Except I’m not complaining. I’m simply offering an honest critique of what I’ve observed thru two weeks. I couldn’t care less if you don’t like my take, but it’s been decades since I’ve “complained” about anything football. 
 

And the defense WAS the difference in this game. That was even more evident than the offense struggling to find some rhythm. 

The D played a fantastic game but the O really put this game out of reach early in the second half. Imo, the 3rd TD was a solid drive which corrected the mistakes from the first half and conveyed the message that "when we get our sh** together we will score TDs at will". 

I grant you that the first half was concerning coming as it did on the heels of the Steelers game (in which the D did more than enough for us to win but the O  and ST let the team down)

 

The tests will come against the Pats** and Bucs but today's was a solid performance for the D and O (second half)

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I am going to enjoy this win, especially when I go to work tomorrow here in South Florida. My co workers had it all figured out that the bills would wilt in the heat and humidity, the fins would be 2-0, 2 games up on the Bills and in sole possession of first place in the AFCE. All I am going to say is "For your scenario to have worked wouldn't the Dolphins have to score some points. Actually the Bills looked better conditioned than the Fins

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9 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

This.

 

The ends over Williams are taking a deeper speed rush which takes away the roll to the right which Allen (and all right-handed QBs) are most comfortable using to escape and extend plays.

 

Teams have really studied our scramble drills too which have left slim pickings, but a few jaw-dropping passes against the grain available to Allen.

 

Williams is leaking a lot of pressures and Morse is not a good fit for their power runs or big NT bull rushes. We kind of saw this last year.

 

It used to be the RDEs were more about containing plays and cleaning up and your LDE was your QB hunter. Teams really had to focus mainly on finding that LT to negate premier LDE pass rushers, but the NFL has changed and teams are lining up some really talented RDEs realizing that in a quick passing league pressures in a QBs face are almost as valuable as sacks.

 

Will that lead to paying RTs more for elite play.... who knows?

 

As it stands Williams is struggling the most - he knows it and his false starts are indicative that he is looking for any edge he can get...

 

Ford has some grit and power, but needs to keep working on moving his feet and getting into better position to avoid holds and take advantage of his strength. 

 

Morse is a fantastic mobile pin and pull center being asked to power block. Feliciano is a good guard who will be exposed against better DTs. 

 

Overall I think they played a much better game - particularly Dawkins and Feliciano. Those two also had set a pretty low bar last week.

 

Our offense sputters because as a unit these guys have not all come together blocking as a unit, but they are trending in the right direction and stayed committed to the run which paid dividends.

 

I think, much like the injection of talent into the defensive line pass rush, Beane is going to look to upgrade the interior of the offensive line next offseason... I also expect Spencer Brown will start to push Williams for playing time at RT.

 

Maybe Williams moves inside? Have read reports that he did not fare well there, but have never watched him play guard.

 

Miami has a decent secondary too, so you cannot just evaluate our offense without tipping your hat to some stellar coverage by Miami's dbs and safeties.

 

 

 

 

Good critique. I lay most of the problems with the passing game directly at the feet of the OLine. Josh has been forced off platform more times in these first two games than I can recall in any two game stretch last season. It’s fair to wonder if KC created a blueprint, which is why Daboll and Allen need to make adjustments. 

3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The D played a fantastic game but the O really put this game out of reach early in the second half. Imo, the 3rd TD was a solid drive which corrected the mistakes from the first half and conveyed the message that "when we get our sh** together we will score TDs at will". 

I grant you that the first half was concerning coming as it did on the heels of the Steelers game (in which the D did more than enough for us to win but the O  and ST let the team down)

 

The tests will come against the Pats** and Bucs but today's was a solid performance for the D and O (second half)

That’s fair. 

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Epenesa was the best player out there on D today, followed by Greg Rousseau. You have no idea how happy I am to be able to say that!

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My favorite part about these post games against Miami is going through all the pregame tweets from Miami fans talking mad crap.  Now all they have to say is "well we won a Super Bowl half a century ago".

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Just now, 34-78-83 said:

Epenesa was the best player out there on D today, followed by Greg Rousseau. You have no idea how happy I am to be able to say that!

I’d add Milano, Oliver, and the secondary as well. They were very stingy today. 

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1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I was working all day and trying to keep up in the chat. 

People are posting D looked fine with Klein. Did Edmunds get hurt or did he get benched?

 

Someone probably already answered this but he went out with cramps.

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16 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:


if we never traded Daryl Lamonica …

if we never traded Ahmad Raschad ….
 

The cure for the OL is better technique, better preparation, and hard work.   Willians got beat on one sack because of technique, he knows better and has consistently played better.  Feliciano is what he is.  Re-signing him was better than losing him and signing a lesser player.  

 

Lamenting over a player we traded to get Diggs, our best weapon, is not only a waste of time but it is creating a legend out of a player ( Teller) that is a solid but average player.  


 

I gave you a thumbs up, Bob, but to be clear with you I still disagree with you based upon the point I made.  There isn’t an answer currently on this team.

 

Respectfully, “better technique, better preparation, and hard work” is easy sauce to doll out and against weaker D’s it will likely prove to be true.

 

However, I believe I have mentioned here, and most certainly with those that I talk to regularly, that I truly believed that at best this oline was “ok to good, but not great.”

 

I honestly don’t believe BT, BP, and HW are going to toe the line for getting us to where we hoped we would be and change around this line.

 

However, we will pile up wins.  I just hope it is enough given some of our short comings.

 

Peace, my friend, and go Bills.

 

Peace my friend. 

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22 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

and?  u think Brissett is good?  is he a top 10 offensive threat in this league?

 

No I don’t, but I don’t think Tua is any good either.

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12 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

Anyone else recovering from Matt Millan's terrible color job? It was Dierdorf esque with lousyness. 

Mullen said “extra mustard” almost as much as Dierdorf used to say “Nanosecond” in a broadcast. 

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Opening drive of second half tells you what you need to know about Josh Allen.  He will be just fine.  Given lack of pre-season playing time, first quarter of season is essentially pre=season.

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14 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Opening drive of second half tells you what you need to know about Josh Allen.  He will be just fine.  Given lack of pre-season playing time, first quarter of season is essentially pre=season.

^^This. The Patriots spent 20 years being just a bit out of sync early in the season. We all know how that played out.

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