Why not put Allen on the punt team…?

[K-9]

Tyler Bass at DT I can see, but Allen on the punt team? No way.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I'm almost in favor of cutting Haack and letting Josh punt. Couldn't be much worse. Danny White (Google him, youngins) helped save a roster spot for years for the Cowgals. 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

  On 9/19/2021 at 2:42 AM, loyal2dagame said:

Because if the play isn't the and the $250 million dollar qb gets injured being blocked,  the whole coaching team would need to be fired

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And the OP shot. 🤨

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Remember the days before Madden?  (The game, not the coach/broadcaster.)

  On 9/19/2021 at 4:11 AM, BurpleBull said:

Wait, hear me out, hear me out!

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More like show you out, show you out.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

  On 9/19/2021 at 4:53 AM, HardyBoy said:

 

I mean obviously they would scheme it in a way that Allen isn’t at risk of getting hit, I’m not suggesting he stays in to block a punt rush. 
 

I guess what I’m thinking is you’re basically running a regular offensive play with Haak in as an option in case the play isn’t there scheme wise. 

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And a new voice auditions for the 'Nightcap'.  Just finished a stint as editor of the school newspaper's sports section.  (And chief typist.)

[RobbRiddick]

Hardy boy, I can hardy take this seriously

[The Wiz]

Let's all start using Ranch instead of blue cheese for our wings also.

 

Edited September 19, 2021 by The Wiz

[Rew]

I feel like he's onto something, but it could use a little work.  Why not put haak in the backfield on 4th and inches.  That way when the play is blown up and Allen throws the ball backwards he can just kick it instead of running into a defender?  We can call it the RPK option play.

[Chandler#81]

  On 9/19/2021 at 11:25 AM, Rew said:

I feel like he's onto something, but it could use a little work.  Why not put haak in the backfield on 4th and inches.  That way when the play is blown up and Allen throws the ball backwards he can just kick it instead of running into a defender?  We can call it the RPK option play.

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Don’t do drugs kids.

[HardyBoy]

You guys need to read Belichik’s comment on how the kicking game evolved over time and start anticipating the next potential advance. 
 

Again, you would scheme this in a way that the qb would be running away from any rushers sideways if the ball is going to the punter.

 

Honestly, punting on 4th and 1 from the other team’s 41 is just a really bad play. I get pinning them deep and hoping your crowd can help lead to a turnover, or you get great field position, but how about you just get a yard and there is your turnover for all practical matters, and you have great field position. 
 

  On 9/19/2021 at 11:25 AM, Rew said:

I feel like he's onto something, but it could use a little work.  Why not put haak in the backfield on 4th and inches.  That way when the play is blown up and Allen throws the ball backwards he can just kick it instead of running into a defender?  We can call it the RPK option play.

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That’s literally what I said when I was saying it could be like a ruby play (I am well aware of the sarcasm)!

 

Maybe not long 4th and inches, but on 4th and 5 on the 40, if the play isn’t there then you punt it, but the punter is a specialist for just that situation, and a former qb and could also throw it in instead of punting. 

Edited September 19, 2021 by HardyBoy

[Rew]

  On 9/19/2021 at 11:28 AM, Chandler#81 said:

Don’t do drugs kids.

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I guess it's too early and the sarcasm too thick.  I thought the Daball play call reference from last week would be enough of an indicator.  Sorry old man.

 

As a serious response, I agree the original post is not workable with current NFL rules.  

[Kelly2Reed]

Washington 

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[HardyBoy]

There is literally an article on this from a few years ago: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/19/15992038/let-your-quarterback-punt-please-nfl-football

  On 9/19/2021 at 10:29 AM, machine gun kelly said:

No Chand, it’s…

 

Lat me add to the poster, just having fun.  We know you meant hair brained idea.  I don’t want to be mean as my auto correct is a pain too.

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Haha that was genuinely funny (no sarcasm).  I was like is that Debbie Reynolds?!

 

Then the end of the commercial with the umbrella…yup!

 

 

[HardyBoy]

  On 9/19/2021 at 6:13 AM, JoPoy88 said:

i think you’re vastly overestimating how much time the punt team would have in these situations. Sounds like you’re trying to apply high-school/D3 trick play garbage (or rugby? Lol) to the NFL. 

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I guess that’s my initial question: are there reasons this wouldn’t work from a rules or just the fact that you can’t make a good decision in that situation because is so fast perspective. 

Edited September 19, 2021 by HardyBoy

[Beast]

I see a name change in the OP’s near future. There is no recovering from this debacle.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

  On 9/19/2021 at 11:53 AM, HardyBoy said:

There is literally an article on this from a few years ago: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/19/15992038/let-your-quarterback-punt-please-nfl-football

Haha that was genuinely funny (no sarcasm).  I was like is that Debbie Reynolds?!

 

Then the end of the commercial with the umbrella…yup!

 

 

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Interesting article, I didn’t remember any of that with RC at the time, and also didn’t know that either Brady or Roethlisberger have punted in NFL action. 

[loyal2dagame]

  On 9/19/2021 at 11:59 AM, HardyBoy said:

I guess that’s my initial question: are there reasons this wouldn’t work from a rules or just the fact that you can’t make a good decision in that situation because is so fast perspective. 

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Rewatch the home opener's blocked punt that cost the bills the game.   That's all the reason you need. 

[Dr. K]

Why can't he play linebacker as well as QB? Nobody likes Edmonds anyway, right?

 

And cornerback, too! At the same time! That will really confuse the opponent's offense!

[todd]

  On 9/19/2021 at 2:39 AM, HardyBoy said:

On punts inside the 50, where Allen plays the guy between the snapper and the punter. Then put McKenzie in one gunner spot Kumero at the other and run a jet sweep. If the play is there, they snap it to Josh, if not Haak does a pooch punt and pins them inside the 20, or bashes it through the end zone. 
 

Are there motion rules if you kick a punt that are different from regular plays?

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is it true that some people post something stupid to see what happens? I’m hoping this isn’t a realistic idea and more of a joke.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

  On 9/19/2021 at 12:21 PM, Dr. K said:

Why can't he play linebacker as well as QB? Nobody likes Edmonds anyway, right?

 

And cornerback, too! At the same time! That will really confuse the opponent's offense!

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Wrecks Ryan's teams were masters of the 'one player / two roles' on defense...at the same time.

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No, Rob Ryan...roles.  Not 'rolls'.

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[Hapless Bills Fan]

  On 9/19/2021 at 4:53 AM, HardyBoy said:

 

I mean obviously they would scheme it in a way that Allen isn’t at risk of getting hit, I’m not suggesting he stays in to block a punt rush. 
 

I guess what I’m thinking is you’re basically running a regular offensive play with Haak in as an option in case the play isn’t there scheme wise. 

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The point is, the "personal protector" is there for a reason.  If you take away his role and actually assign him protectors, then you no longer have a functional punt formation.  Might as well go for it on 4th down.