The 9 Isles Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 Daboll: hero to zero in 3 hours flat. 🤣 1
ngbills Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 I dont agree with article. But he is pointing out it is not just a one game thing. It goes back to to the BAL and KC playoff games as well. 1
DeltaDigital Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: These kind of comments are simply click bait. Daboll needs to up his game this week but we should not forget how good he was last year. Josh Allen was good. Diggs was good. Beaz was good. Buffalo won in spite of Daboll.
That's No Moon Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Fan in San Diego said: Typical game 1 overaction. Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Baltimore, second half v. Indy. Same problems in all of them.
3rdand12 Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 So who do Bills target to replace him ? Is Dorsey the next up McBeanes needs to get this things sorted asap. and win against Miami will not be the proof.
Jauronimo Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 I like the idea but I don't think it goes far enough. I would slide everyone on the line of scrimmage down one spot like volleyball. Naturally that means right tackle rides the bench and Bates slides in a left tackle. Thats how you shake things up and send a message.
Thurman#1 Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) On 9/16/2021 at 4:01 AM, transplantbillsfan said: Tim Graham at The Athletic suggests shaking things up and demoting Daboll this week Didn't see it posted: https://theathletic.com/2825259/2021/09/14/is-it-too-soon-to-worry-about-the-bills-offense/ Is it too soon to worry about the Bills offense? A Week 2 change could provide a spark That headline overstates what Graham did. He didn't suggest it. What you could say is something more like ... he brought up the possibility and discussed it, along with McDermott's history of doing things like that. In fact he goes pretty far out of his way NOT to suggest it. "One then could fairly deduce the Bills’ message about improving their run game meant they needed to adjust the way Daboll calls their plays," he said. "... one might wonder if it’s time for passing-game coordinator Ken Dorsey to get a shot to see what he can do," he said. "One might wonder." That is not the language you use when you suggest something. Bringing up a possibility, for the sake of discussion, maybe. About as far he goes towards any kind of assertion is, saying, "Lombardi Trophies won’t be lifted without significant adjustments from what we witnessed." He absolutely did not suggest demoting Daboll, much less doing so this week. Edited September 17, 2021 by Thurman#1 1
Thurman#1 Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Baltimore, second half v. Indy. Same problems in all of them. Our receivers were all injured at that point. They weren't getting open, and the refs decided not to call pass interference in the championship game. And controlling them was easier due to their injuries. And while the offense wasn't great against Indy, they certainly weren't bad and pretty decent in the second half. Four drives for a TD and two FGs. The problems were more serious in the last two games, against two good Ds, with injured receivers. If we continue to have problems, that will indeed signal that the system needs some fixing. Right now it's not clear there are any problems beyond Pittsburgh's being really good and needing to learn to handle what they did against our route combos. If they do at some point switch play callers, that would be fine with me. It hasn't yet, IMO, been shown to be necessary. But bigger changes could be indicated if the returns continue to come in negative. Edited September 17, 2021 by Thurman#1
Motorin' Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: It’s one game……… So you're saying It's time for a total rebuild? What do we gotta do to get the #1 pick next year? Edited September 17, 2021 by Motorin'
Doc Brown Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 He did a good job of explaining what went wrong and linked it to our offensive struggles in the playoffs. Specifically, our struggles against heavy zone teams. Maybe we do need to shake things up on offense. I just don't like the idea of having Dorsey taking over play call duties one week into the season. Daboll is able to self scout and you have to have faith in the staff you assembled to make the necessary adjustments. Let's just see what he comes up this week against the Fins as I expect another cat and mouse game.
machine gun kelly Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 Someone wrote early in this thread it’s a gross overreaction, but the difference with Frasier is McD was a very successful DC for quite sometime prior to the HC role. What experience does Dorsey have to call plays? It makes no sense at all. Graham has jumped the shark for awhile. Im a little surprised “the sky is falling” takes here after going 15-4 last year. My god it’s one game and we weren’t blown out like the Packers. We scored the exact same offensive pts. As the Steelers, and had a punt blocked. Yep, the offense sucked an egg, but the defense played relatively well. Better than the beginning of last year, and there a lot more hurries on Ben.
without a drought Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 Have we gotten to the point of someone suggesting the Bills hire Jim Kelly as the OC yet? 4
WhoTom Posted September 17, 2021 Posted September 17, 2021 Jackson Pollock was an artist whose "technique" was to dip brushes into random buckets of paint and spatter it all over the canvas. Graham's article seems like Jackson Pollock style coaching.
transplantbillsfan Posted September 17, 2021 Author Posted September 17, 2021 15 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: That headline overstates what Graham did. He didn't suggest it. What you could say is something more like ... he brought up the possibility and discussed it, along with McDermott's history of doing things like that. In fact he goes pretty far out of his way NOT to suggest it. "One then could fairly deduce the Bills’ message about improving their run game meant they needed to adjust the way Daboll calls their plays," he said. "... one might wonder if it’s time for passing-game coordinator Ken Dorsey to get a shot to see what he can do," he said. "One might wonder." That is not the language you use when you suggest something. Bringing up a possibility, for the sake of discussion, maybe. About as far he goes towards any kind of assertion is, saying, "Lombardi Trophies won’t be lifted without significant adjustments from what we witnessed." He absolutely did not suggest demoting Daboll, much less doing so this week. What exactly do you think the definition of the word "suggest" is, Thurm? To suggest is "to put forward for consideration." I said suggest... not recommend. You give the word "suggest" the same meaning of "recommend." If you apply that definition to the word suggest, I agree, he did not recommend it. But by its very definition if, he did suggest it.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 I have found that whenever a headline to an article is a question, there typically isn't good content inside.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 "So, Bucky, show me the ropes of a successful 'open house'. That Daboll article didn't go over too well."
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 9:34 PM, ScottLaw said: Think Indy figured some things out and it’s been a struggle since…. Everyone seemed to chalk the Ravens game up to the wind, but then they looked just as dysfunctional against KC and last week was a mess….. so I think there is something to it. Of course you do
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 18, 2021 Posted September 18, 2021 I think it was June Jones that pioneered the 4 and 5 WR no RB set. He called it the Run and Shoot. He ran it where ever he coached including Hawaii and the Falcons. It was never successful as the QB took lots of hits with no RB blocking. It went from being called the Run and Shoot to the "Chuck and Duck"
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