quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, Big Blitz said: And they will.....not against fronts like Pitt, Wash, or Tampa unless Josh plays near perfect. Right. This iteration of the Bills gets stomped by Tampa’s D. 1
mjd1001 Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 No. The OL isn't good enough. The Steelers were playing 100% looking for pass. If the bills even gave the ball to Singletary 10 more times, the Steelers D-unit would have played even more balanced, and Singletary would have gotten under 4 yards per carry.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Does that mean three more fumbles? Dang-- you beat me to it!
BuffaloRebound Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 4-5 yards a carry is fine. Take what the defense is giving you. Make them commit more to the run. Daboll is like a 3 point shooter that continues to hoist contested 3’s when the defense is leaving the lane wide open. Mix in a few drives to the hoop to soften up the defense. 2 2
Eastport bills Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: And they will.....not against fronts like Pitt, Wash, or Tampa unless Josh plays near perfect. I hope you're right. If so, I will be guilty of overreacting to one bad performance.
LABILLBACKER Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 Just because you pay a guy 43M doesn't mean you're obligated to pass 66% of the time. DC's will have an easier time game planning Josh this year based on Daboll's tendencies. I'd like us to run more. Keep defenses honest and not dropping 7 in zone coverage. Obviously our OL might struggle blocking 4 let alone more. If a hitter knows a fastball is coming it increases your avg tremendously. Activate Moss and at least run it 45% of the time. Daboll has to be much more creative in keeping pressure of JA. He didn't do it in KC and he didn't do it yesterday. Big mistake to wish for the Dallas offense. 2
MAJBobby Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 Lets put this in Perspective. Bills 25 Carries. CLE - 26 KC - 23 Dal - 18 Tampa - 14 NYJ - 17 Carolina - 27 Jax - 16 HOU - 41 AZ - 33 Tenn - 22 LAC - 29 WFT - 27 PHI - 31 ATL - 26 Min - 22 CIN - 36 SF - 28 Det - 24 Sea - 27 Indy - 30 MIA - 23 NE - 30 GB - 15 NO - 39 Den - 28 NYG - 20 CHI - 26 LAR - 23 So do not run it more, Run it more effectively, and with the RIGHT person. 1
dave mcbride Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, warrior9 said: In what world is 51 pass attempts and 25 run attempts a 50/50 split? Wouldn't a 50/50 splits be 25 runs and 25 passes? or am I missing something. It's actually 54 passes because he was sacked 3 times.
dorquemada Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: There was 9 mins left in the game down by 10 when he ran for 15 and then 25. Is that garbage time? By your handle, i know you've been around a while. WHen you've watched enough games, you know when one team has already ceded the field. It was garbage time because Pitt didnt care if we ran the ball. The whole second half, the Bills were stuck in molasses, from getting the play in, to getting to the line, to getting the play off. The longer that game lasted, the more Pitt would have won by 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Just because you pay a guy 43M doesn't mean you're obligated to pass 66% of the time. DC's will have an easier time game planning Josh this year based on Daboll's tendencies. I'd like us to run more. Keep defenses honest and not dropping 7 in zone coverage. Obviously our OL might struggle blocking 4 let alone more. If a hitter knows a fastball is coming it increases your avg tremendously. Activate Moss and at least run it 45% of the time. Daboll has to be much more creative in keeping pressure of JA. He didn't do it in KC and he didn't do it yesterday. Big mistake to wish for the Dallas offense. Opposing D Coordinators can assume henceforth that in critical situations, Daboll go to page 973 of the playbook and find the dumbest play possible. It will make their jobs easier. 1
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, warrior9 said: In what world is 51 pass attempts and 25 run attempts a 50/50 split? Wouldn't a 50/50 splits be 25 runs and 25 passes? or am I missing something. You must be old! You've never taken "New Math" in school!
Big Blitz Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: It's actually 54 passes because he was sacked 3 times. And 3 holding calls on pass plays? Is that 57 drop backs? Hey good news, all that passing under duress and zero INTs is impressive. 1
First Round Bust Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 its one only game... and really each team (O, D, ST) and respective coaching has to share blame...sucks when D knows what play you are running at a critical stage (pitch to Breida for loss of what 7 !)...you dont deserve to win when you allow a blocked punt to score...and the D did not rise up and stop Pitts come crunch time to bail out the O... Next...tough road game in heat at Miami - likey do better against man schemes that fish use extensively on D...so lets see some better coaching and effort
dave mcbride Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: And 3 holding calls on pass plays? Is that 57 drop backs? Hey good news, all that passing under duress and zero INTs is impressive. I think there were four holds called and two declined. I'd need to check. 1
Gen2 Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 It very well COULD have changed the complexion of the game. The Squealers defended us by rushing four (and often times 3) and playing a zone defense that "crowded" the passing lanes. Running more with Singletary and Moss (if he were available) would have undoubtedly pulled defenders from coverage to defend the line of scrimmage. The problem with that strategy is that the blocking of our OL was so abysmal that maybe our 6.5 per rush (from a real running back) may have become ineffective in a hurry had Pit "loaded the box" with more defenders.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 This is a quality over quantity argument. I think we need to run more effectively, not just more.
Mango Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 Probably not. He had a moment or two yesterday. But his 25 yard pick up is overvaluing his production to fans. He had a good day yesterday, but nor carry the team great. The offensive unit/staff as a whole lost the game. There is not a single quick fix for that other than just being holistically better.
nucci Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 If he hypothetically ran for 100 yds and 3 TDs....then yes
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 You can’t say this on WGR, for them running empty all game, every game is the only way to win because it’s 2021. I think the Bills hem themselves into this template where every game needs to be 50 throws, no run game, Josh is our leading rusher. Josh is sloppy with the ball when he runs. The underneath outs to Diggs and slants to Beasley were open, but Dabol gets impatient. I think we win yesterday if attempt the 53-yard FG from Bass, and not throw backwards on 4th-1 from a tight goal line formation. But Singletary was not the issue yesterday. He gets no work. This was like fans who used to get on Spiller when he got 3 or 4 carries a game and fans were upset he didn’t average 5.0 ypc. Singletary is not the Bills problem. We have turned into a empty set, throw every play team regardless of how the game is actually playing out on the field. Yesterday our tackles were being abused, so it’s on Josh to be the man at all times.
MAJBobby Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 You also run to close out games. If there is any complaint with how the game script was written was not going Run Heavy in the 3rd
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