Taiwan Jones - Elite Gunner and now Captain

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 
maybe.. don’t like historical comps but he is perfect in this defense. He’s a little weak vs run but in middle zone pass defense he takes away a ton of field with his size athleticism and range. 
 

a lot of folks don’t understand the scheme and think like ‘70s mlbs hes supposed to roam and take on the rb. That’s not this defense 

 

The amount teams use play action, and RPOs - if you shoot gaps like they did in the ray lewis days you're going to get burned a lot over the middle.  

[NoHuddleKelly12]

 Who needs a “C” when there’s a hat for that? 
 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

40 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

The amount teams use play action, and RPOs - if you shoot gaps like they did in the ray lewis days you're going to get burned a lot over the middle.  

That’s exactly right. Shooting the wrong gap instead of your assignment and fit and Leslie gets cranky 

[YoloinOhio]

6 hours ago, Process said:

Do players vote for captains, or coaches decide? Jerry should be a captain without a doubt. 

Diggs said that the players vote

[The Dean]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I feel every team has 2 ST Captain's

 

 

The Steelers only have 3 Captains this year. ONE on Offense, Defense and ST.

 

While I don't really give a damn how many captains a team names, 8 seems like overkill to me. 

[billybrew1]

Taiwan was a captain in 2018 I read elsewhere.....

[ganesh]

6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Last year's captains:

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-elect-these-team-captains-for-the-2020-season

 

Josh, Dawkins

Poyer, Hughes, Edmunds

Ferguson, Roberts

 

2019:

Josh, Dawkins

Edmunds, Alexander

Ferguson, Hauschka

 

So we're trending up in # of captains, from 6 to 7 to 8

Which I think is a little strange, but whatever...

It simply shows that the team has a lot more leaders and hence more ownership and accountability.  The signs of a mature team

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, billybrew1 said:

Taiwan was a captain in 2018 I read elsewhere.....

He was a ST captain for the Bills in ‘18. 

[Rico]

I have no problem at all with Taiwan or anyone else on this team being named captain, especially if it was voted on by the players.

 

Now, Chris Kelsay being named captain 3x in the drought-era when all he knew was how to lose… that’s a different story. 

[Patrick Duffy]

55 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yes, 2019 defense played good all year…. The Mickey Mouse QBs they played certainly helped.

 Defense was good in 2017 too. Or you chalking that up to mickey mouse QBs also?

Edited September 7, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[DJB]

6 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Seen a few posters say the same before. Have wondered about it myself. Coaches appear to be happy with him at MLB though. Don't know if they have ever attempted to try him at OLB in practice or anything, but it does kinda make you curious if he'd be better there.

 

I honestly think he and Milano should flip spots. 

[Big Blitz]

7 hours ago, Process said:

Do players vote for captains, or coaches decide? Jerry should be a captain without a doubt. 

 

 

Jerry is the de facto captain of the entire team.  Imo he kinda resides over these 8.....he's the first one they'll all go to with anything.  

 

He doesn't need the letter on his jersey to vindicate that and my guess is he'll tell you he doesn't need it.   

 

 

The leadership hierarchy in this organization and how everyone understands where they fit in, the chain of command, it's just remarkable.  

[JoPoy88]

53 minutes ago, Rico said:

I have no problem at all with Taiwan or anyone else on this team being named captain, especially if it was voted on by the players.

 

Now, Chris Kelsay being named captain 3x in the drought-era when all he knew was how to lose… that’s a different story. 

100% agreed. CK was one of the most overrated and unfairly rewarded players of that entire era. 

[billybrew1]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 
maybe.. don’t like historical comps but he is perfect in this defense. He’s a little weak vs run but in middle zone pass defense he takes away a ton of field with his size athleticism and range. 
 

a lot of folks don’t understand the scheme and think like ‘70s mlbs hes supposed to roam and take on the rb. That’s not this defense 

I think he should be taking tons of stuff away but really doesn't.  He plays his zones too soft. He lets big-time receivers exit his zone and he watches no one instead of staying on a high percentage target. I think he needs to be better for sure. Maybe a lot better. I'm sorry, I want to be a huge fan, he is just not there. Too often he covers no one in the zone. I think if he IS supposed to do that, it is poor defensive design. I think a defender should make every play count. They should either be pass rushing or covering someone. Not just taking plays away. A good OC merely avoids a strong spot if that's the way it is defended. Versus the chefs, it looked like we weren't covering Hill or Kelce way too often..... though I did see Tremaine let go of his cover as the player left his zone and the ball went there. It was very frustrating.... IDK, they killed us, imho. Three times in a row, we are doing things totally wrong vs. the chefs or they are just way better than us. Which is it?

The last time the chefs won both LOS.

We barely covered anyone.

JA17 showed up, but his receivers were all beat up. (The chefs also were guilty of holding)

So hopefully the next two times we play the chefs Josh's O around him is fully healthy. That will really help that aspect of the game.

Special Teams were fantastic but couldn't effect the game enough, so I think we gotta be happy with STs.

Its the defense that really needs to improve. It isn't as simple as we just need a better pass rush, we need way tighter coverages too. We need to Billieve we can really limit Hill and Kelce in the game. We need to force a couple punts, hold them to a few FGs, and take the ball away once in a while. We need to play totally different than we have been.

 

Full disclosure..... I have tried to rewatch that KC game closely a few times already but it is so sickening I just can't do it. I also don't have the all-22 so I'm limited in what I can see....

 

What I do know.  McD And Leslie are tight, Tremaine and Ed both have to have more impact this year if we are to overtake the chefs. Our pass rush must also be better but I think we have that one figured out, at least, somewhat. Maybe Dawson has to improve more too.... You could say the whole 2018 draft after JA17 and the whole 2019 drafts have to improve for us to win the SB this year. And yes, I do think some of it is on the coaches.....

The good news is it looks like we have bounced back with the 2020 and 2021 drafts..... It is too early sure, but I think Diggs was worth to secure JA's place as a franchise QB. I think AJ is going to be a good player, a tough player (we need more toughness) Moss was a good pick, I don't think Devin is an every down back, so Moss was needed we have two excellent blockers and that's what we need most from that position. Davis is already a Star and might be Beane's second best draft pick. From looks like a bust. Bass-o-magic is another star already! Hodgins is still with us and Jackson, according to coaches is fighting for #2 CB job. So a great draft so far, imho.

And I love the 2021 draft because we focused on the LOS and our guys look frigin' fantastic so far in preseason and training camp. They also drafted really big men which I love as well.

I think AJ really wins a lot of fans this year though.....I would love to see Groot and AJ starting in fact. That'd be quite an accomplishment for their early careers if indeed they beat out Jerry and Mario..... I say Efe gets the bench on the inactive list and Groot - Basham - Addison- AJ becomes our third and long front..... I really like Efe in for Addison here but I'm pretty sure one of the DEs has to sit.....possibly two..... No, I don't think any of the rookies should sit.....but maybe one does?

 

Go Bills!

[billybrew1]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

He was a ST captain for the Bills in ‘18. 

Yes, I meant Buffalo, elsewhere was I readi it not here....

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, billybrew1 said:

Yes, I meant Buffalo, elsewhere was I readi it not here....

Well I posted it on the 1st page of this thread, you sure?

[without a drought]

7 hours ago, Cash said:

That’s who goes out for coin tosses - opening and OT. I’m not aware of any other official stipulations around being a captain. 

Sounds important, good thing they have so many.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

8 hours ago, TheProcess said:

This is 3 for Josh and Tremaine. How long until they get the gold captain patch on their jersey? Is that 4 years of captaincy? 
 

Edit: For anyone interested like I was, appears you have to be captain 4 years (which fills in the 4 stars on the captain patch) before you get the gold “C” and 4 stars patch in your 5th year of captaincy. So, looks like, Josh and Tremaine need this year (done), next year, and then voted captain the following year to get the gold patch.

 

Once in awhile I actually learn something on this board! Very interesting. 

[CEN-CAL17]

12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Not really a surprise, he anchors the ST unit, so pretty much a no brainer

Funny thing is he’s actually one of the three offensive captains….

 

It was reported somewhere 3 offensive 3 defensive and 2 STs… but I think they may have 3 STs. Cause it’s McDs favorite?

Edited September 8, 2021 by CEN-CAL17

[WhoTom]

14 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Jerry is the de facto captain of the entire team.  Imo he kinda resides over these 8.....he's the first one they'll all go to with anything.  

 

He doesn't need the letter on his jersey to vindicate that and my guess is he'll tell you he doesn't need it.   

 

Jerry is a respected elder and a defensive leader, no doubt, but Josh is the true leader of the team. I do agree, though, that Jerry doesn't need a "C" on his jersey to be a leader. I remember speaking to the president of the college where I taught. He said something that never occurred to me but made a lot of sense: "You don't need an official title to be a leader."