Tyrod Taylor named Texans starting QB vs. Jags Week 1

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Well, in all honestly passing for 58 more yards might have won that game 😆 

 

Possible.  But the D giving up a TD to the Ravens from the 9 yard line instead of picking it and running it back for a TD could have lost us the Ravens game too. 

 

Or, the D getting a stop or making a play in the 2017 playoff game could have won it. 

 

My point is that our memories tend to be selective, and we forget that defensive and ST play tend to have big roles in the playoffs.  Bortles only passed 23 times for 75 yards in that game, vs. >200 yds in his next two playoff games that season, so it's not like game conditions were perfect for a pass-a-palooza (and of course, same was true of the Ravens game)

 

Allen shows far far more ceiling as a passer than any QB we've had since Kelly retired, but let's not pretend he's been an unstoppable offensive juggernaut in all our games

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Tyrod isn't good but he isn't as bad as that Jags game.  Dude might have had the all time worst receiver core ever.

 

What's scary to me is that bad as they were, I think they were better than Allen had the following season - Zay Jones, Fat Kelvin, Bob Foster, and Jason Croom with return performances from Charles "feet of" Clay aye yi yi

[nedboy7]

1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said:

He’s not a low end starter and he’s not a decent QB.  Hue Jackson believed that and then benched him and ultimately got canned.  
 

Everyone loves to be the nice guy but you gotta face facts.    He stinks 

 

 

You seem to forget the fact that he is starting again in the league.  It is cute how he gets under your skin. 

[Malazan]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

Yeah and that’s implying racism. Basically saying that if he had been white, he would still be the starting quarterback. When he’s just not that good of a starting quarterback, period. 

 

3 hours ago, snafu said:

He might be right.  Only in his case Josh kinda blew his point out of the water.

 

And I hope he does well in Houston. He’s in a bad spot, but I’d love to see him succeed.

 

He said this in 2017. A couple weeks before being replaced by Nathan Peterman I believe.

 

Josh Allen wasn't even on the team. 

[Saxum]

Tyrod's play changed from first year as a starter to subsequent years as a thrower - he became much less willing to take chances.

You would not see them trying to work thru bad series with him.

When on sideline he was often berated by coaches and I think it made him gun shy.

QB coaching was inadequate.  Daboll was like that with Allen first year but he improved and wisely decided he would do a better job from coaches booth.

He talking about taking more chances post Browns but not see it.

 

Tyrod needed some external help but not once did I hear any news on him during offseason.

The NFLPA has restricted offseason work with players far too much and too few players find adequate help during offseason.

I do think his chances for improving look up this year with Texans coaching staff led by David Culley who was a terrible QB coach for Bills.

 

 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Limeaid said:

Tyrod's play changed from first year as a starter to subsequent years as a thrower - he became much less willing to take chances.

You would not see them trying to work thru bad series with him.

When on sideline he was often berated by coaches and I think it made him gun shy.

QB coaching was inadequate.  Daboll was like that with Allen first year but he improved and wisely decided he would do a better job from coaches booth.

He talking about taking more chances post Browns but not see it.

 

Tyrod needed some external help but not once did I hear any news on him during offseason.

The NFLPA has restricted offseason work with players far too much and too few players find adequate help during offseason.

I do think his chances for improving look up this year with Texans coaching staff led by David Culley who was a terrible QB coach for Bills.

 

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[Rico]

So he's started Week 1 for the Bills & Browns, should've started Week 1 for the Chargers, and now he will start Week 1 for the Texans. That's not too shabby when you consider what he looked like as Flacco's backup with the Ravens way back when, I would've figured he'd be out of the league by now.

Edited September 6, 2021 by Rico

[Steptide]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What's scary to me is that bad as they were, I think they were better than Allen had the following season - Zay Jones, Fat Kelvin, Bob Foster, and Jason Croom with return performances from Charles "feet of" Clay aye yi yi

Tyrod was given some good receivers when he was traded to the Browns. He is mediocre at best. He's been in the NFL like 8 or more years now. Unless he's made some major jump, I think he'll look like the exact same qb we've seen over his career

[Hapless Bills Fan]

30 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Tyrod was given some good receivers when he was traded to the Browns.

 

True Dat.  He was also given Todd Haley as his offensive coordinator.

 

30 minutes ago, Steptide said:

He is mediocre at best. He's been in the NFL like 8 or more years now. Unless he's made some major jump, I think he'll look like the exact same qb we've seen over his career

 

This is probable.  I think the point is that he's still in the league because while he's not the guy you pursue as the Franchise, he's 24-21-1 as a starter, and a QB who can win at least half the games for you as a backup has value.

[Teddy KGB]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

While throwing to Charles Clay, Deonte Thompson, Nick O'Leary, and Zay Jones, and Jordan Matthews, let's not forget that.

He also had Bills fans convinced Robert Woods stunk and Peak Sammy Watkins holding press conferences to remind him QB’s are supposed to throw passes.  
 

Y’all are being too nice to this guy.   
 

That’s enough Tyrod content for one season 🙃

[PetermansRedemption]

I’ll always remember arguing with my friends during that playoff year that the Bills got to the playoffs in spite of Tyrod rather than because of Tyrod. He will always be a boat anchor in my mind. Just because he was the QB during the drought breaking season doesn’t mean he was anything more than average or below average. 

2 hours ago, Rico said:

So he's started Week 1 for the Bills & Browns, should've started Week 1 for the Chargers, and now he will start Week 1 for the Texans. That's not too shabby when you consider what he looked like as Flacco's backup with the Ravens way back when, I would've figured he'd be out of the league by now.

Good work if you can get it!

[BigAl2526]

Tyrod has crafted a nice career out of mediocrity given that the number of good to great QBs is limited.

[SinceThe70s]

2 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I’ll always remember arguing with my friends during that playoff year that the Bills got to the playoffs in spite of Tyrod rather than because of Tyrod. He will always be a boat anchor in my mind. Just because he was the QB during the drought breaking season doesn’t mean he was anything more than average or below average. 

Good work if you can get it!

 

The parade of Bills QB's that preceded Tyrod all contributed to the drought. I agree that Tyrod is average at best. Like it or not average QB play contributed to ending the drought. Some of us appreciate that. I'm not sure if many of us saw him as the guy to take us to the next level.

[Paulus]

9 hours ago, Bangarang said:

This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone.

So, what do you think will happen to Watson? Im genuinely curious.

[AuntieEm]

6 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

My biggest beef against Tuhrod is that for three years here (and 4 years in Bmore before that, SEVEN YEARS!), he was Tie-rod.  After he left here, he finally got the balls to tell people his name was pronounced Tuh-rod.  Dude had no balls on or off the field.

 

 

   Somehow I get the impression that had Tyrod spoken up about the correct pronunciation upon arriving to Buffalo and becoming the starter  you'd be calling him a prima donna and he'd need to prove he was worthy as the bills qb before you'd consider giving him the courtesy of pronouncing his name correctly.  Now I sincerely do not think you could truly be so callous though that is possible.  I only hope if you are and you have every right to be  based on your life experiences. I however would hope your a Bills fan from outside the Buffalo area because as a Buffalo native I have high expectations of my fellow Buffalonians --  we are the city of good neighbors after all. 

 

 

Nothing wrong with Tyrod requesting his name be pronounced correctly. And I don't say that cause I've suddenly have become Woke! I have a difficult Polish surname and I served in the Air Force 6 years  late 70's early 80's.  Long story short an airman named Garza thought it was funny to mess up my surname instead of using my nickname as I understood my name was not easy to learn to pronounce.  Well 2 days of calling him gumbo, gomez, gorilla,  a few other less pc g words and he actually put the effort into pronouncing my surname properly.  I wouldn't be surprised if he could say it correctly now 40 years later. 

 

  I'm just surprised that his name pronunciation correction didn't occur under Sean's early tenure because I do think every guy on today's roster would certainly use whatever pronunciation he wished to be used. That or there would be an agreed upon nickname to be used.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

[Teddy KGB]

5 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

 

You seem to forget the fact that he is starting again in the league.  It is cute how he gets under your skin. 

whats even cuter is the Texans are a 2.5 point underdog at home vs a rookie Qb playing his first game ever for “the jags” 😩😩😩

 

you chose poorly, knowing when to cut ties could be beneficial to you in the future. 

Edited September 7, 2021 by Teddy KGB

[AuntieEm]

11 hours ago, Doc said:

Yeah and that’s implying racism. Basically saying that if he had been white, he would still be the starting quarterback. When he’s just not that good of a starting quarterback, period. 

 

  And yet there are Bills fans that  call tyrod a loser technically true of each member of the teams in the drought era. That would include a bills fan favorite Ryan Fitzpatrick.  Seems with a very similar record during his tenure with the bills he's regarded as a smart competitor whod be a winner if only his athleticism matched his intelligence and he just couldn't make the throws but he could clearly read what the defense was doing.  He at least tried to win games and didn't hesitate to pull the trigger and the inevitable int.   Not his fault the defense intercepted him.  Whereas Tyrod is vilified as a gutless loser because he didn't wish to risk to's.  That seems like a smart way to play.   Both are stopgap talents neither capable of pulling out a win on their talents alone  consistently yet Fitzpatrick is given a pass more readily,  because he's not as gifted an athlete or is there some racial  bias mixed in there whether its intentional or not it seems plausible there is some element of ŕacial  bias.

 

Tyrod the perceived loser has a SB ring earned when he was Flacco backup.   And he was part of the bills drought breaking season.  No not the catalyst but his efforts were part of that teams success.  To dismiss his part in winning is just as wrong as dismissing Fitzpatrick penchant for the game ending ints as a reason the bills didn't end the drought under his watch. 

 

   I wish both success elsewhere with the caveat as long as its in the bills interests.  Otherwise let them come up short.  

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by AuntieEm
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[Saxum]

2 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I’ll always remember arguing with my friends during that playoff year that the Bills got to the playoffs in spite of Tyrod rather than because of Tyrod. He will always be a boat anchor in my mind. Just because he was the QB during the drought breaking season doesn’t mean he was anything more than average or below average. 

Good work if you can get it!

 

LOL From @P5t5rmansRedemption!

[GoBills808]

53 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

  And yet there are Bills fans that  call tyrod a loser technically true of each member of the teams in the drought era. That would include a bills fan favorite Ryan Fitzpatrick.  Seems with a very similar record during his tenure with the bills he's regarded as a smart competitor whod be a winner if only his athleticism matched his intelligence and he just couldn't make the throws but he could clearly read what the defense was doing.  He at least tried to win games and didn't hesitate to pull the trigger and the inevitable int.   Not his fault the defense intercepted him.  Whereas Tyrod is vilified as a gutless loser because he didn't wish to risk to's.  That seems like a smart way to play.   Both are stopgap talents neither capable of pulling out a win on their talents alone  consistently yet Fitzpatrick is given a pass more readily,  because he's not as gifted an athlete or is there some racial  bias mixed in there whether its intentional or not it seems plausible there is some element of ŕacial  bias.

 

Tyrod the perceived loser has a SB ring earned when he was Flacco backup.   And he was part of the bills drought breaking season.  No not the catalyst but his efforts were part of that teams success.  To dismiss his part in winning is just as wrong as dismissing Fitzpatrick penchant for the game ending ints as a reason the bills didn't end the drought under his watch. 

 

   I wish both success elsewhere with the caveat as long as its in the bills interests.  Otherwise let them come up short.  

 

 

 

It's not that complicated. Fans want their team to win football games, but short of that they want to be entertained. Fitzpatrick, for all his flaws, was an entertaining quarterback to watch. Taylor, equally flawed, was not.

[Brennan Huff]

My lasting image of Tyrod was when he went 1-8 for 8 yards in the second half of a game where we were getting absolutely destroyed by the Saints. The next game was against the Chargers and Nathan Peterman got his 1st career start. I don’t need to remind everyone how that went…