PatsFanNH Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Beast said: I can't stand Brady but I agree that he is the GOAT. He has Championships to be measured against and played in a league with 31 other teams in a salary cap era. Otto Graham made the championship game all 10 years of his career and won 7 of them. Man was a champion as well.. again totally different sport when he played IMO, but wow also impressive no matter how big the league was.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) A blast from the past for you to enjoy. The no-huddle in its heyday was something to behold, and Kelly was the right man for the job at the right time. ‘91 Kelly is the equal to pretty much any of the best out there Brady included, if you are looking just at command of a dominating offense and ability to convincingly roll your team into the playoffs. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1991-09-22-1991265142-story.html And FWIW, recall the type of punishment JK endured in that days’ NFL, while still performing at a high level… https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1991-11-17-9102170106-story.html Edited September 9, 2021 by NoHuddleKelly12 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 8 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: A blast from the past for you to enjoy. The no-huddle in its heyday was something to behold, and Kelly was the right man for the job at the right time. ‘91 Kelly is the equal to pretty much any of the best out there Brady included, if you are looking just at command of a dominating offense and ability to convincingly roll your team into the playoffs. https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1991-09-22-1991265142-story.html And FWIW, recall the type of punishment JK endured in that days’ NFL, while still performing at a high level… https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1991-11-17-9102170106-story.html Love it, NHK! Thank you. Although some will always bring up the fact that Cincy invented the No Huddle, everyone should most certainly know that Buffalo perfected it. Lesser is the shotgun formation. The Cowboys used it for years, but it was Fergy and the 80-81 Bills that showed that everyone could do it. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Love it, NHK! Thank you. Although some will always bring up the fact that Cincy invented the No Huddle, everyone should most certainly know that Buffalo perfected it. Lesser is the shotgun formation. The Cowboys used it for years, but it was Fergy and the 80-81 Bills that showed that everyone could do it. I got a real chuckle out of this ‘89 article wherein Wyche and Levy snark at each other over the Bengals’ usage of no huddle being unfair, given what happened afterwards.. https://buffalonews.com/news/no-huddle-issue-still-bothers-wyche-bengal-coach-has-grudge-against-bills/article_4daf56a4-5efd-518e-a535-8925855be901.html As far as differences between the 2, the Bills turned it into a living and actually accelerated their game clock speed of running plays, while I’ve always heard the Bengals just didn’t huddle, but didn’t necessarily speed up the rate of plays? Not 100% sure on that. Wiki offers this: “The Bills are considered the only team to ever use the no-huddle offense consistently and completely throughout an entire game for several seasons. This means that the "K-Gun" offense always used the scheme as their primary offensive philosophy. Quarterback Jim Kelly would call and signal the plays himself on the field throughout the entire game. That is a unique achievement that has never been truly duplicated, therefore, the "K-Gun" offense earned a reputation as the most famous and complete hurry-up offense in football.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurry-up_offense 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I got a real chuckle out of this ‘89 article wherein Wyche and Levy snark at each other over the Bengals’ usage of no huddle being unfair, given what happened afterwards.. https://buffalonews.com/news/no-huddle-issue-still-bothers-wyche-bengal-coach-has-grudge-against-bills/article_4daf56a4-5efd-518e-a535-8925855be901.html As far as differences between the 2, the Bills turned it into a living and actually accelerated their game clock speed of running plays, while I’ve always heard the Bengals just didn’t huddle, but didn’t necessarily speed up the rate of plays? Not 100% sure on that. Wiki offers this: “The Bills are considered the only team to ever use the no-huddle offense consistently and completely throughout an entire game for several seasons. This means that the "K-Gun" offense always used the scheme as their primary offensive philosophy. Quarterback Jim Kelly would call and signal the plays himself on the field throughout the entire game. That is a unique achievement that has never been truly duplicated, therefore, the "K-Gun" offense earned a reputation as the most famous and complete hurry-up offense in football.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurry-up_offense Brother, no lie, I remember it, I remember it, I remember it like it was yesterday. I also loved when Wyche became a Bills guy later on. Didn't last, but still good stuff. Sam Rutigliano (spelling) of Cleveland was another guy who threw us under a bus once, but then was generous in comments later. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Brother, no lie, I remember it, I remember it, I remember it like it was yesterday. I also loved when Wyche became a Bills guy later on. Didn't last, but still good stuff. Sam Rutigliano (spelling) of Cleveland was another guy who threw us under a bus once, but then was generous in comments later. Classic stuff right there—Wyche in Buffalo I’d honestly forgotten about—but somehow seems serendipitous now that you mention it! 1
FilthyBeast Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 19 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Otto Graham made the championship game all 10 years of his career and won 7 of them. Man was a champion as well.. again totally different sport when he played IMO, but wow also impressive no matter how big the league was. Exactly. Either way greatness is truly measured by championships which is why Brady, Montana, Jordan, Bill Russell, etc transcends all others.
Rocky Landing Posted September 9, 2021 Posted September 9, 2021 I think Roger Moore was the best James Bond-- better than Sean Connery, even. But, no one takes me seriously, either. 1
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